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Been awhile si ce I did the fasting glucose this morning and once again the typical 149. Now on a website I read it’s always high in the morning so this 149 may be much lower in reality. Then on anothersite something about the Diabetes could go away for a year before it resurfaces. Honeymoon period or something. This is why people who are diagnosed with minor diabetes simply choose to ignore it until something happens. My PCP Doctor told me the diabetes I supposedly have is very well controlled & my eating has been not the best.Last A1C was 6.7 DOWN from 7.1 go figure...lolaughs
 

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This Diabetes issue is a giant pain in the ass. Sometimes I forget all about it even though I take Metformin. I take the pills without even thinking about it.
Next question is how much longer do I have to take them???? Been on them a long time.
 

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This Diabetes issue is a giant pain in the ass. Sometimes I forget all about it even though I take Metformin. I take the pills without even thinking about it.
Next question is how much longer do I have to take them???? Been on them a long time.
Medications are permanent, in one way or the other; as for myself, I blew right through metformin, and my diabetes got real serious PDQ.

That was 15 or 20 years ago, and here lately my insulin needs have risen. There ain't nothing static about diabetes, it morphs a lot.

I am up to about 60 units of insulin, per day myself; and 5 years ago it was probably 10 units less than that.
 
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Have they invented insulin pills yet? I cannot imagine injections everyday.
I’m no where near with what you take. I just take Metformin twice a day and that’s it. I’m a newbie. It’s still hard to believe I might have this...connot accept it. But for sure my sugar is a little high, that I accept. If I do have it, no effects yet so I can coast in the food till something happens then I will get serious. But I’m losing teeth now and then. But this may not be related to anything. My feet are fine no numbness. Now I’m getting emails for diabetic shoes. Someone put me on the sucker list I guess. Everyday there is something about bracelets or shoes or diets. It’s unreal. I forget about this but the emails bring it back to my mind.
 

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If I do have it, no effects yet so I can coast in the food till something happens then I will get serious.
Why do you want to wait until something happens? It may be too late by then.

Recently, a friend of mine had his toe amputated. I had seen him a couple of weeks before that. He was fine. When I asked him about it, he said that it happened suddenly.

My brother's SIL went into renal failure. She was fine one day and sick the next. Both of these people are T2 and did not take care of their diabetes. They didn't get the chance to start eating better.

You have a chance to do something about your diabetes. Why waste it?
 

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Why do you want to wait until something happens? It may be too late by then.

Recently, a friend of mine had his toe amputated. I had seen him a couple of weeks before that. He was fine. When I asked him about it, he said that it happened suddenly.

My brother's SIL went into renal failure. She was fine one day and sick the next. Both of these people are T2 and did not take care of their diabetes. They didn't get the chance to start eating better.

You have a chance to do something about your diabetes. Why waste it?
It’s too hard to change my diet.
 

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This Diabetes issue is a giant pain in the ass. Sometimes I forget all about it even though I take Metformin. I take the pills without even thinking about it.
Next question is how much longer do I have to take them???? Been on them a long time.
I am diabetic. I have been for 2 1/2 years. I do not take any medication. My BG is under 90 (was 396)

'IF' you follow the doctors recommendations, it is a progressive disease and not only will you have to take them, you will have to continue to increase your dosages because as per doctors, this is a progressive disease.

luckily, I dont follow the doctors advice :vs_cool:
 

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I read if A1C goes under 7, Metformin can be stopped.
i would love to know where you read it. in my opinion, that statement you read is wrong and dangerous and I hope it was not coming from a doctor

in the most simplest form... the medication could be EXACTLY what is keeping you at 7. How can someone know this and post something for you to read? its a very dangerous statement you read
 

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There is just to much contradictory things said on the web people give up caring.
Giving up is an option, I suppose. But this isn't discussing on-line what color the dress is or which motor oil is best, it's your life, and how good it can be (or how bad it can get).

Being able to discern good information from bad information is a 21st-century skill. One good key is to carefully evaluate information that comes from people who are selling something, whether that's an expensive supplement that "cures" all forms of diabetes or "diabetic slippers" that are purported to do a better job than regular ol' slippers or continued long-term medical treatment and the prescription of expensive "wonder drugs".

We are not selling anything here. No one here profits from your success or inability or disinterest in managing your diabetes. We simply are supporting each other in our discovery that what you eat makes a marked difference in managing diabetes and warding off the horrible long-term effects of a chronic disease. Our vested interest is in you as a human being with diabetes. No profit motive, no recruitment.

If that doesn't make what we have to say more worth listening to, then I wish you the best because the voices you are listening to ("no Metformin under a 7.0 A1c") do not have your best interests in mind.
 

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Here’s one that seems strange.... my morning fasting was 149 then later around 2pm.... I ate a McDonalds single burger, fries, coffee and a Sunday.....
Went home and two hours I did the 2 hour test and the number was 159.
After all that bad food, the reading should have been way over 200. But it was not. Go figure..... makes me think it’s pre Diabetes not Diabetes. A real diabetic would have way over 200 reading right???
 

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After all that bad food, the reading should have been way over 200. But it was not. Go figure..... makes me think it’s pre Diabetes not Diabetes. A real diabetic would have way over 200 reading right???
There's a lot going on there. What did you do for exercise after eating? When do you take your Metformin (and what kind is it)? Did you measure at three hours after (it takes some foods that long to register increases in BG levels)?

Your body still can produce some of the insulin it needs -- but, obviously, not enough, as your numerous reports of fasting blood glucose levels of 149 attest. It's likely that your pancreas responded to your Mickey Dee's meal with enough insulin to counteract most of those carbs -- but then it may have overshot the runway, so to speak, producing more insulin than your body needed, or your body's cells just got another little bit worse at reacting to the proper balance of glucose and insulin. Or both.

None of that causes visible signs of sickness now, but mark it that the damage is being done. By the time you see confirmed evidence of the damage, there will be no retreat, no walking back from the abyss.

Ratter51, you have diabetes. If you did not have diabetes, your doctor would not be having you take Metformin. If you did not have diabetes, your fasting blood glucose levels would be around 100 or lower, not in the mid-100s (as you've reported several times in this forum). It does not change anything in your body to call it "pre-diabetes" or "a mild case". You have diabetes.

The sooner you move to the "acceptance" stage (hard as that may be; it was hard for all of us and maybe not all of us are 100% there yet), the sooner you'll start avoiding the worst complications of diabetes. It is, of course, your own choice. But you're making a big bet in thinking you can just motor on until things get worse. There's a reason the odds are big -- payoff doesn't happen often.
 

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I’m taking 500 my twice a day, half hour after I eat and at night. Try to do it 12 hours apart. So it’s a thousand mg a day. I’m taking other meds too unrelated to the sugar issue. I was walking a mile or two each morning but cut way down on that because it’s a pain in the ass sometimes. But I get exercise somehow throughout the day doing things. Sometimes I like to walk sometimes I don’t. I dont feel it does much. It does help loosen up the muscles though. So that’s good. My PCP tells me the A1C is down from 7.1 to 6.8 and he told me my sugar is under excellent control. So I do not see the urgency to go crazy and panic at this time. My last full eye exam results were no signs of Diabetes at all.
I think the modern view on Diabetes is changing as an article I posted says testing with glucose meter everyday is a waste because A1C tells the story..things like that. My feet are fine no issues. If I do have Diabetes it’s very very minor and under excellent control. It’s not like my A1C is in the 8 range.
So far no damage I am aware of. Dr says it’s under excellent control like I said. In fact I’m going to ask him if I can stop the Metformin in My Oct appointment. I have no idea what he will say. So if my “Diabetes is under e cellent control....why worry???? Right?
 

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Ratter51, one of us is right. Only time will tell.
 

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I’m taking 500 my twice a day, half hour after I eat and at night. Try to do it 12 hours apart. So it’s a thousand mg a day. I’m taking other meds too unrelated to the sugar issue. I was walking a mile or two each morning but cut way down on that because it’s a pain in the ass sometimes. But I get exercise somehow throughout the day doing things. Sometimes I like to walk sometimes I don’t. I dont feel it does much. It does help loosen up the muscles though. So that’s good. My PCP tells me the A1C is down from 7.1 to 6.8 and he told me my sugar is under excellent control. So I do not see the urgency to go crazy and panic at this time. My last full eye exam results were no signs of Diabetes at all.
I think the modern view on Diabetes is changing as an article I posted says testing with glucose meter everyday is a waste because A1C tells the story..things like that. My feet are fine no issues. If I do have Diabetes it’s very very minor and under excellent control. It’s not like my A1C is in the 8 range.
So far no damage I am aware of. Dr says it’s under excellent control like I said. In fact I’m going to ask him if I can stop the Metformin in My Oct appointment. I have no idea what he will say. So if my “Diabetes is under e cellent control....why worry???? Right?
interesting...

I don't take medication at all and my numbers are between 75 and 90 at all times...and I HAVE full blown diabetes. kinda makes you think.

If I was taking medicine, then the medicine would be controlling my diabetes, not me.

you are in excellent control because your medication is assisting. Thats what medication does... and keeps doing as we up the dosage.

Good luck Ratter51. I hope you never have to come to this site for any advice like others who thought like you, and did what you are doing have come for. They all thought the same.

you can be the exception... i'm sure it happens.

:vs_cool:
 

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What are you doing to keep numbers so low? I had a rough night because of all the fat I ate....bad night.
 

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What are you doing to keep numbers so low? I had a rough night because of all the fat I ate....bad night.
I live a keto lifestyle vlc/hf. When you say rough night , could you elaborate and also give what you ate. We might have some suggestions
 

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McDonalds fries burger and sundae lunch time and dinner black beans and rice with chopped up tailor ham onions peppers and half a loaf white Italian buttered bread. Home made lemon slice in graham cracker pie crust. The white bread taste better than brown bread but I also like brown bread too. The rice was brown rice
 

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McDonalds fries burger and sundae lunch time and dinner black beans and rice with chopped up tailor ham onions peppers and half a loaf white Italian buttered bread. Home made lemon slice in graham cracker pie crust. The white bread taste better than brown bread but I also like brown bread too. The rice was brown rice
That’s way more carbs than fat. I would think it was all the carbs and sugar that had your reaction. Your body had to work hard to move the sugar into your cells .
 

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McDonalds fries burger and sundae lunch time and dinner black beans and rice with chopped up tailor ham onions peppers and half a loaf white Italian buttered bread. Home made lemon slice in graham cracker pie crust. The white bread taste better than brown bread but I also like brown bread too. The rice was brown rice
I did a guesstimate and you had about 250g of carbs . For someone who has diabetes (prediabetes or regular diabetes ), that would be a lot. Not sure if you had breakfast or any sugary drinks . It would certainly give me a tough night
 

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Hi,I don’t drink sugary drinks other than diet cola. I eat fruit and vegetables and meat. This morning I’ll give one more example as I’m sure no one wants to hear what I eat..... I had an egg sandwich at the diner and coffee I skipped the bacon today because of the bad night last night. Iour breakfast this morning was a buttered toasted roll and they put 2 eggs on it. A leaf of lettuce. Cup of coffee. Forgot to mention big bacon eater but we get it crispy because it taste better to us and the bad stuff is cooked away. We still put the bacon on a paper towel to get anymore grease off. The diner only had white rolls. BUT McDonalds breakfast sandwiches have Canadian bacon..... so I don’t know if that concidered real bacon or ham. I go to McDonalds a couple times a week. WAWA is my main stop..... but their prices are inching up. That’s my story. What will really throw a wrench into the works if my next A1C goes even lower. Eat good A1C goes up...eat not the best A1C goes down. Go figure that one out. Lolaughs thanks for the responses.
 
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