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I am VERY glad you have it under control... I have a question for you.

if you can turn back time when you decided to be cavalier about it, what would you change and why?

also - how much medication did you take when you decided to be cavalier and how much and what additions are you taking now.

in my opinion , you are Ratter51's 'Christmas yet to come' ghost...
You may be right about my being the "Ghost of Christmas Future."

My main problem was that I wasn't testing enough. I was simply assuming that what I was eating was ok. My endocrinologist was always telling me that I needed more data on my glucose meter. The strange thing was that my A1C wasn't that terribly high---6.5. But later my doctor said that for many diabetics the A1C is not always a true indicator of glucose control.

I was eating crackers, wraps, and peanut butter, but I was proud of myself because I never ate potatoes, pasta, rice, or high carb fruit. After I realized that my physical problems were caused by diabetes (believe it or not, I kept thinking it was stress), I started testing several times a day and cutting my portions way back and eliminating all of the high carb stuff I was eating. I lost about 20 lbs. Now I'm actually having to take less insulin than before. In fact, over the past few months I've had a lot of lows because of the drastic change in eating. I'm learning to control those lows by simply taking less insulin.

Let me tell you, nothing gets your attention like having numb, tingling feet and hands.
 

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thanks for that info...

would you do things different if you could?

the issue is see is the numbing and tingling is nerve damage (neuropathy) and that can NOT be reversed.. you can probably ease some of the symptoms but nerve damage doesnt repair itself.
 

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thanks for that info...

would you do things different if you could?

the issue is see is the numbing and tingling is nerve damage (neuropathy) and that can NOT be reversed.. you can probably ease some of the symptoms but nerve damage doesnt repair itself.
Paresthesia CAN be reversed. Paresthesia is the early warning sign of nerves being stressed. When I got my diabetes under control, the symptoms went away.

What would I do differently? You mean now or before? I would have tested more often (4-6 times a day) and I would have cut out the things that were driving my numbers up.
 

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Paresthesia CAN be reversed. Paresthesia is the early warning sign of nerves being stressed. When I got my diabetes under control, the symptoms went away.

What would I do differently? You mean now or before? I would have tested more often (4-6 times a day) and I would have cut out the things that were driving my numbers up.
paresthesia can be reversed .. this is true.

Neuropathy cant and it might be hard to tell the difference since the symptoms are very similar

but you are correct.
 

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My wife had nerves burned around her SI joint (hip) in seven places, because getting steroid injections just wasn't stopping the pain. I think it is a process called Radio Frequency Ablation. She was told she would probably have to do it again anywhere from between 6 months to 2 years because the nerves would regenerate and grow back.

This article from The Truth About Cancer says nerve damage from diabetic neuropathy can be reversed. The misconception that it can't may stem from not doing anything differently about it, like getting a burn from putting your hand in a fire, never taking your hand out of the fire, and then declaring burns don't heal. JMO. If you don't rid the cause, damage is continuing and healing can't outpace it.
 
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I don’t know if this applies here, but in 2006 I had laser spine surgery and my left side was numb and the Drs said it’s 50/50 if nerves come back. They did not.
 

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Did a fasting glucose and it’s the highest it’s ever been....200. Got to cut down on the deserts. Last desert I had last night was fat free icecream and two Oreo cookies. I guess that’s not a good thing. Now there’s a ton of pies and food waiting for us at Thanksgiving. Yikes
 

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Did a fasting glucose and it’s the highest it’s ever been....200. Got to cut down on the deserts. Last desert I had last night was fat free icecream and two Oreo cookies. I guess that’s not a good thing. Now there’s a ton of pies and food waiting for us at Thanksgiving. Yikes
Have you tried low carb ice cream? 200 is really high.
 

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Thanksgiving (and Christmas and so many other food-centric holidays) is tough for all of us with diabetes -- way too many temptations and not enough carbs in the day. Don't forget -- it's not just the obviously sweet stuff like pie and marshmallows that contain lots of carbohydrates; the potatoes and gravy and cranberry sauce and rolls do, too.

Oh, and "fat-free" foods can be among the worst for your blood glucose because when they take out the fat, they usually replace it with starches and sugars -- carbs. Fat will not raise your blood glucose levels. That's why so many of us here do well with a low-carb/high-fat way of eating.

I think you've figured out you need to watch more closely what you're eating. Thanksgiving is a tough day to start eating differently, though, so tomorrow morning's fasting glucose number could be a shocker, too. (In fact, morning fasting glucose numbers are among the last to come down for most people with diabetes.)

I am going to make what is perhaps a controversial suggestion: If Thanksgiving is not Thanksgiving for you without pie, then eat some. Maybe choose a smaller piece than usual (or one slice :smile2:) or cut back on the mashed potatoes and cranberry sauce from the rest of the meal. You likely will not "cover" the carbs in the pie completely. But there are approximately 363 other days of the year you can eat better. Diabetes commands enough of our attention every day. If learning to manage it through diet calls for an occasional detour, well, you still can get there without feeling like your life has been ruined. One or two "bad days" out of the year is better than just eating whatever, whenever, and hoping for the best.

Good luck to you, Ratter, and to all of us navigating Thanksgiving tables today.
 

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Just got back from my brothers Thanksgiving feast.
I was determined not to over eat but it did not work out that way. Non stop eating, turkey with all the trimmings then 5 deserts with coffee. One of the deserts was an ice cream cake. The dinner rolls were great. Stuffing I had three servings. I ate every desert they had. I lost all control and I think my stomach came out 4 inches. I pigged out big time..... but wow was it good!!
When we got home I made a bee line to the bathroom. I don’t think a human being could eat more than I did today. Totally blew it big time. Now I dont feel good.
 

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Just got back from my brothers Thanksgiving feast.
I was determined not to over eat but it did not work out that way. Non stop eating, turkey with all the trimmings then 5 deserts with coffee. One of the deserts was an ice cream cake. The dinner rolls were great. Stuffing I had three servings. I ate every desert they had. I lost all control and I think my stomach came out 4 inches. I pigged out big time..... but wow was it good!!
When we got home I made a bee line to the bathroom. I don’t think a human being could eat more than I did today. Totally blew it big time. Now I dont feel good.
Dont feel bad my friend.. you are just starting and you are doing great from where you were a month ago. tomorrow is a new day. today wont hurt you if you try again tomorrow.

dont punish yourself. you are doing way better than you think. you are keeping your health and the way to fix it in your mind. thats half the battle.

keep it up. forget today. Tomorrow is a fresh chance!
 

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Thank you. I mean all this food is staring me in the face and it was just too hard. Everyone else is eating everything so it was tough to say no.
 

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I’ve done 2 fasting glucose tests since I posted results here last. Starting to worry a little bit my last two results were 200 a couple weeks ago I guess and now 180 this am and a 187 a week ago so that’s 3 tests not 2. I guess it’s still mild but the numbers on last 3 are up and I’m getting plenty of exercise right now. Maybe I should double down on Metformin as my next Dr visit in January 10th. Maybe just a fluke?
 

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I find myself using more sugar on my fruit and and salad. Without sugar it’s hard tasting the sweetness and I use sugar on my garden salad. Artificial sugars effect my BPH.
 

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When your doctor prescribed Metformin, he based the dosage on an assumption that you would be eating a specific amount of carbohydrates each day. If you're eating more than that amount -- even on some days and not all of them -- the Metformin can't do what it does to address your blood glucose levels and you'll see higher fasting blood glucose levels than you did earlier.

It may be a little hard to isolate this, however, with just occasional testing. And I'm going to guess that you're not closely tracking your carbohydrate intake (in grams or "exchanges"). More testing would help determine if you're testing after some particularly carb-heavy days or if your trend is slowly increasing fasting blood glucose numbers.

Assuming that the fasting blood glucose numbers are a trend, however, then your choice becomes taking more Met or cutting back on carbs (at least to the level the doctor assumes you are eating). Unfortunately, the trend with taking more Met and not cutting back on carbohydrates or significantly increasing exercise is taking still more Metformin later (only so much you can take of that) and/or taking additional diabetes-treatment drugs (which have more serious side effects and risks than Metformin) or insulin injections. But the choice is yours.
 

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I’ve done 2 fasting glucose tests since I posted results here last. Starting to worry a little bit my last two results were 200 a couple weeks ago I guess and now 180 this am and a 187 a week ago so that’s 3 tests not 2. I guess it’s still mild but the numbers on last 3 are up and I’m getting plenty of exercise right now. Maybe I should double down on Metformin as my next Dr visit in January 10th. Maybe just a fluke?
I find myself using more sugar on my fruit and and salad. Without sugar it’s hard tasting the sweetness and I use sugar on my garden salad. Artificial sugars effect my BPH.
I'll make is simple. If diet is not changed, Diabetes is a progressive disease
 

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I gotta be honest, I have tried a couple times with the diet and carbs and it’s just to hard. I looked at the dietbetes cookbooks and it’s a giant hassle having to get the ingredients each night and then learning how to cook. I do not like to cook. It doesn’t look like Diabetes meals will fill anyone up. I’ll be hungry an hour later. Basicly no bread and that sucks big time. It seems a diabetics life revolves around the next meal. Eating a cheeseburger without the bun is not realistic. Not being able to eat a breakfast sandwich or bacon and eggs is rediculous. It seems EVERYTHING has a lot of carbs. Having a few slices of pizza is out. I can honestly see why people who have a little high sugar give up on trying all this. I saw a nutritionist and it was ridiculous unreal eating....how many times can a person have lemon flavored water?? Gets real old real fast.
I don’t like oatmeal. The whole diabetes thing sucks as far as I’m concerned.
My doctor never said see a specialist. I’m beginning to think for some people, not all of course, it might be better not to fret about diabetes until it gets worse.
I’d rather be happy eating what I want then miserable trying to follow a carb free diet that’s nothing but a giant hassle. I’m a little concearned though but not concealed enough to panic at this point in time. Does anyone understand what I’m saying?
 

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I gotta be honest, I have tried a couple times with the diet and carbs and it’s just to hard. I looked at the dietbetes cookbooks and it’s a giant hassle having to get the ingredients each night and then learning how to cook. I do not like to cook. It doesn’t look like Diabetes meals will fill anyone up. I’ll be hungry an hour later. Basicly no bread and that sucks big time. It seems a diabetics life revolves around the next meal. Eating a cheeseburger without the bun is not realistic. Not being able to eat a breakfast sandwich or bacon and eggs is rediculous. It seems EVERYTHING has a lot of carbs. Having a few slices of pizza is out. I can honestly see why people who have a little high sugar give up on trying all this. I saw a nutritionist and it was ridiculous unreal eating....how many times can a person have lemon flavored water?? Gets real old real fast.
I don’t like oatmeal. The whole diabetes thing sucks as far as I’m concerned.
My doctor never said see a specialist. I’m beginning to think for some people, not all of course, it might be better not to fret about diabetes until it gets worse.
I’d rather be happy eating what I want then miserable trying to follow a carb free diet that’s nothing but a giant hassle. I’m a little concearned though but not concealed enough to panic at this point in time. Does anyone understand what I’m saying?
I understand what you are saying. You can only do what you are committed to doing and you are not committed to doing it so it will never work.

My only hope is that you dont look back and regret any decisions you make. Good luck with all that you do and I hope everything works out.


by the way , you are not reading the right information. I eat when I am hungry and I dont eat when I am not hungry. its never a meal to meal situation. Also fat makes you full and that is the best way of eating. and Oatmeal is not a good thing so what you are reading is not what we would recommend here.

Good luck my friend
 
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