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As games go, I don't recommend it. Type 2 diabetes sucks. And what angers me most is the constant criticism by the media that it's our fault. No. I don't think so. You have to have the genes for it and most people with weight problems do not become diabetic. Has it never entered anyone's head that the two things are linked? I've had a problem with my weight since I was a small (adopted) child, yet my parents and brother (also adopted) were thin. I didn't do that to myself. It was the early sixties, there was no fast food and I didn't have pocket money to go and buy sweeties. So how does a 2 year old end up overweight? My life has been a constant battle, trying to limit what I eat though nowadays, with the spiralling obesity crisis, I look pretty normal. But I'm still overweight. And now I have Type 2. Brilliant.

I was diagnosed on March 16th 2010, exactly 22 years to the day I passed my driving test. The fasting glucose test was inconclusive so the gp, determined I reckon to get a diagnosis, sent me for an oral glucose test. That was horrible. They wouldn't let me go and wait in my car so I sat and cried for 2 hours in their waiting room. And of course, I just hit the magic figure and my life was changed forever.

I have to add, at that time, I was having a horrible time with my boss at work. It started in January 2009 when a new person joined the team and suddenly I was the outsider. I'd been there for four years and enjoyed my job but then my boss started a campaign of being nasty to me and it took till March 2010 to realise that she was getting off on my distress. My husband and I coined a name for it. We called it "The Whipping Boy School of Management" and I had to realise that this wasn't about me; it was about her and her failings and her incompetence and she hated me because I was good at what I did and she (stupid woman, not fit to be a boss) was jealous. It was like living in a war zone and I no longer felt 'safe' at work. It lasted 15 months till I was diagnosed and decided my health had to come first so threw in the towel by resigning. At the end I did tell her about the diabetes as I wanted some annual leave at short notice to get my head around the situation, and to say she was non supportive would be putting it mildly. She said she didn't know anything about diabetes and I thought, my goodness woman, we work in a library, is it beyond your wit to pull a book off a shelf or put the word into a search engine? Obviously the answer was 'yes'. Next day, with me still struggling to function, she goaded me with a biscuit.... "Would you like one. Oh, no, of course, you can't, can you?" Hee Hee. And she did laugh. And then she proceeded to eat that biscuit in the most provocative manner, with a great deal of yum yumming and smacking of lips and I was stunned. I felt truly violent towards her. I remembered the UK schoolteacher who bashed the pupil over the head with a dumbell and thought, that could be me. I saw the gleeful smug look on her face and at that moment I realised. This is bullying and Audrey has advanced to the annihilation stage. It was time to get out.

So, for me, the diabetes and the bullying are inexorably linked. Whatever was my GP thinking of? He knew what was going on. I was having such a horrid time with Audrey that I'd been signed off with stress and anxiety, then depression, and still he went ahead with the diagnosis. Good news is, I have lost weight (no idea how much as I don't do scales; instruments of humiliation I call them. Anyway, you can tell all you need to from the size and tightness of your clothes) and my last HbA1c was 4.9. I've cut down on carbohydrates, I swim and I walk my dog and that's about it really. I know the carb thing isn't official advice but it doesn't make sense to eat them when I my body is struggling to metabolise blood sugars. The diabetic nurse does not agree but I can't see the point of sticking to the traditional food pyramid diet when that's what made me ill in the first place.
 

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Hello and welcome, Bridget. Congratulations on controlling your diabetes - the weight loss, the exercise & cutting carbs - and that A1c! Do you have trouble with lows at all?

We try to provide the warmth, care & encouragement here that are often unobtainable in our home environment. Even when people want to understand & help, it's really difficult for them to imagine how we must manage.

I'm really glad you found this forum, and I'm really sorry for the bullying you've suffered at the hands of an ignorant abusive woman.

Thank you for joining us!

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As games go, I don't recommend it. Type 2 diabetes sucks. And what angers me most is the constant criticism by the media that it's our fault. No. I don't think so. You have to have the genes for it and most people with weight problems do not become diabetic. Has it never entered anyone's head that the two things are linked? I've had a problem with my weight since I was a small (adopted) child, yet my parents and brother (also adopted) were thin. I didn't do that to myself. It was the early sixties, there was no fast food and I didn't have pocket money to go and buy sweeties. So how does a 2 year old end up overweight? My life has been a constant battle, trying to limit what I eat though nowadays, with the spiralling obesity crisis, I look pretty normal. But I'm still overweight. And now I have Type 2. Brilliant.

I was diagnosed on March 16th 2010, exactly 22 years to the day I passed my driving test. The fasting glucose test was inconclusive so the gp, determined I reckon to get a diagnosis, sent me for an oral glucose test. That was horrible. They wouldn't let me go and wait in my car so I sat and cried for 2 hours in their waiting room. And of course, I just hit the magic figure and my life was changed forever.

I have to add, at that time, I was having a horrible time with my boss at work. It started in January 2009 when a new person joined the team and suddenly I was the outsider. I'd been there for four years and enjoyed my job but then my boss started a campaign of being nasty to me and it took till March 2010 to realise that she was getting off on my distress. My husband and I coined a name for it. We called it "The Whipping Boy School of Management" and I had to realise that this wasn't about me; it was about her and her failings and her incompetence and she hated me because I was good at what I did and she (stupid woman, not fit to be a boss) was jealous. It was like living in a war zone and I no longer felt 'safe' at work. It lasted 15 months till I was diagnosed and decided my health had to come first so threw in the towel by resigning. At the end I did tell her about the diabetes as I wanted some annual leave at short notice to get my head around the situation, and to say she was non supportive would be putting it mildly. She said she didn't know anything about diabetes and I thought, my goodness woman, we work in a library, is it beyond your wit to pull a book off a shelf or put the word into a search engine? Obviously the answer was 'yes'. Next day, with me still struggling to function, she goaded me with a biscuit.... "Would you like one. Oh, no, of course, you can't, can you?" Hee Hee. And she did laugh. And then she proceeded to eat that biscuit in the most provocative manner, with a great deal of yum yumming and smacking of lips and I was stunned. I felt truly violent towards her. I remembered the UK schoolteacher who bashed the pupil over the head with a dumbell and thought, that could be me. I saw the gleeful smug look on her face and at that moment I realised. This is bullying and Audrey has advanced to the annihilation stage. It was time to get out.

So, for me, the diabetes and the bullying are inexorably linked. Whatever was my GP thinking of? He knew what was going on. I was having such a horrid time with Audrey that I'd been signed off with stress and anxiety, then depression, and still he went ahead with the diagnosis. Good news is, I have lost weight (no idea how much as I don't do scales; instruments of humiliation I call them. Anyway, you can tell all you need to from the size and tightness of your clothes) and my last HbA1c was 4.9. I've cut down on carbohydrates, I swim and I walk my dog and that's about it really. I know the carb thing isn't official advice but it doesn't make sense to eat them when I my body is struggling to metabolise blood sugars. The diabetic nurse does not agree but I can't see the point of sticking to the traditional food pyramid diet when that's what made me ill in the first place.
Welcome to the forum! There is a wealth of information to be found here. And we will listen to you rant and rave. I hope that you have time to visit the forum often. Take care.
 

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No, I don't have trouble with lows. I'm lucky. I'm going on Tuesday to an appointment with the diabetic nurse to find out my new HbA1c - it might not be so good. She asked if I wanted her to phone me, or to come in. I said I wanted to meet face to face - I need to know what my blood fats are at as with my new low carb diet I am eating a lot more cheese and fats than I used to. I need to check things are going OK. Official advice in the UK is to stick to the diet with lots of starchy foods, less meat and fish, and even less fats, but I cannot think that is right. Time will tell. Tuesday dawns. Scary.
 

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I am really glad you heard my plea. It's brilliant that's someone's heard me. I promise that my futuure posts wll be more diabetes based, bacause there's a lot of stuff to process. I have an awful lot to learn. Diabetis is hard work.
 

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Ask for a copy of your tests, Bridget . . . it's always good to have in your own files. Not sure if it's true in the UK, but here in the States they must provide you a copy if you request it.
 

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Welcome to the forum

i hope that you visit us regularly. This is by far, THE best place for us diabetics to talk freely and openly about whats going on with us.

Please feel free to ask any questions that you might have, as i feel that there are no "dumb" questions

You can do this, you can.

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Welcome and sorry for the crap you got. I probably would have punched that person in the face.
Come back often.
 

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Hey Bridget... welcome :) I enjoyed reading your post, I like your humor.
 

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Hi Bridget,
Welcome to the friendliest place a diabetic can be. You will find no end of support here.

It sounds like you made a good decision to leave that unpleasant place. The reduced stress will help your BG levels as well as your sanity.

Eric is right about no question being dumb here. He's also a good motivator if you need a freindly kick up the A#*e too!!

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I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes, controlled by diet and exercise, in March 2010. I saw the diabetic nurse today for the results of my second HbA1c. I didn't have one done on diagnosis, too upset and simply walked out the door... and they weren't too alarmed by that as I had only just hit the magic figure on the oral glucose test. It was 4 months till my first HbA1c blood test and that came back at 4.9. At that point my total cholesterol (and these are UK figures so don't know if that means anything to anyone) was 5.8.

Three months on my second HbA1c also came back at 4.9 - but my total cholesterol is up to 7.0 Not so good. Most people say their blood fat profiles improve with a low carb diet so I am disappointed and would like some advice, hopefully before I see my GP on Friday.

The nurse told me she'd never had a new patient pull in two 4.9s after diagnosis like that. She said she was pleased, but she was worried. That most people sat at the 6 - 7 level and that the band for non-diabetics with the scale they used was 4.6 - 6.5. She thought I must be spending a lot of time with lows of 4, or under, and then having spikes at mealtimes. I have no idea. I'm in Scotland and they don't give glucose monitors to Type 2s who are controlled by diet and exercise alone. It's like they want us all to progress onto medication, which takes me back to the old conspiracy theory: that pharmaceutical companies are not interested in cure. No profit in that.

I don't eat a lot of fat during the day - to be honest, I don't eat very much during the day, but that is another issue. Sometimes I have a plate of soup at lunch if my husband comes home, then we tend to have a bit of protein with various veggies at night (no starches). I do have cheese and a pear for my supper at ten o'clock. Could that be the problem? Should I cut down the portion of cheese? Should I change it for meat, or fish or egg or avocado?

The reason I don't eat much during the day is that I'm just not hungry and, as I don't get lows, to me that's OK. Not according to the dibetic nurse who wants me to eat regularly to keep my blood sugar levels on an even keel. But I've had quite a year - maybe my appetite will come back when I've adjusted to all the changes I've needed to make.

I have to say I find this news quite depressing. I am starting to wonder, so I can't process carbohydrates and I can't process fats - what on earth am I going to eat?

All advice welcomed.
 

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Whatever your numbers are on the lipids panel (cholesterol, etc.), they're not directly the result of the dietary fat you eat. Only 20% of the body's cholesterol is from dietary intake - all the rest is manufactured by the body itself. When you cut the carbohydrate from your diet, it improves your lipid levels as well as your blood sugar levels. Cheese is one of the saving graces of a low carb diet, and shouldn't be avoided due to the fat content. If you were able to get a copy of your test results, we might be able to help you understand the breakdown into the various components of the profile.

It surely isn't illegal in Scotland to own a glucose monitor, so my suggestion is to go get one anyhow, and start checking your blood sugar. With an A1c like yours, and still the high glucose tolerance result, you need to know the fluctuation in your levels that encompass these seemingly contradictory numbers.

In my opinion, you've struck an excellent regimen with cutting carbs and your swimming - that's the best total body exercise you could possibly do!
 

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OK, these are UK numbers so maybe meaningless to some:

AllI know is that:
My total cholestorol was up to 7 (from 5.8)
My HDL was 1.67
My trigides were 2.3 (they were down)
and the ratio was 2:3.1 (or something)

I know it's a bit 'iffy'. And hard to tell when you're talking to a Scottish nurse who doesn't want you to get too bogged down in the minuitae.Hope you can make sense of that. If not, I' see my doctor on Friday and can have more detailed questions for him then.

What I need to know, is should I be changing my diet or is this caused by something else? If so, how do I convince my doctor?
 

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OK, these are UK numbers so maybe meaningless to some:

AllI know is that:
My total cholestorol was up to 7 (from 5.8)
My HDL was 1.67
My trigides were 2.3 (they were down)
and the ratio was 2:3.1 (or something)

I know it's a bit 'iffy'. And hard to tell when you're talking to a Scottish nurse who doesn't want you to get too bogged down in the minuitae.Hope you can make sense of that. If not, I' see my doctor on Friday and can have more detailed questions for him then.

What I need to know, is should I be changing my diet or is this caused by something else? If so, how do I convince my doctor?
I don't know how to convert your numbers. Maybe someone else from the UK can help you out. Good luck.
 
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