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My father is having typ2 2 diabetes for past 10 years now.
Till now he managed to avoid Insulin by proper diet control but now he is finding it difficult and has moved onto Insulin.

Recenting i read an article in newspaer saying that for obese people having Type 2 diabetes Gastric Bypass was done which not only cured theh obesity but also irradicated Diabetes as well.

This treatment works for non obese person as well.

i went and met the doctor and they tell me that by aproscopy they do some intestional rearrangement which cures diabetes permanently.

I wanted my father to go for this operation but not sure how many people have already tried this or not? whether this eorks or not?

BTW teh doctors sound very confident that the patient can be permanently cured in this way.
 

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Hello psingh: :)


This is definitely not a surgery to be taken lightly since some Patients do die as a result.

According to a detailed video I saw, approximately 90% of Diabetic Patients are cured if they have had Diabetes for 5 years or less. Permanently?? Perhaps. This procedure has only been performed sinced 1993, I think.

If they have had Diabetes for 10 years or more then the Diabetes will be improved and will be more easily controlled but they will still have it. I doubt Very much that they would use this surgery on slimmer People just to get rid of the Diabetes because it is a dangerous procedure and expensive.

I have seen many programs speaking of this procedure and it is usually successful.

I wish your Father Well.


Gastric Bypass.com - Your Guide to Weight Loss Surgery
 

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Hi Terrie,

Thanks a lot for your reply. Can you provide me with more references on this surgery?

I'll get more details from my doctor. What he told me was that it won't be gastric bypass and he will do some intestinal rearragment and that should solve the problem.

It doesn't sound very logical to me that some arrangement will solve this problem and that too permanently.

I'm in a state of dilemma as to what shoudl be done ..I can't see the detriorating health of may father and i would want to help my father.

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Pankaj
 

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Here is a video on this subject.

 

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Hello Pankaj: :)

I can certainly understand your mixed feelings about your Father going through this surgery. I would hope that his Dr. just didn't explain things clearly to you about the procedures.

I accidently ran across 4 related videos which explained everything and showed what the surgeon was doing inside the Obese Diabetic's body during the procedure. I found the videos Very interesting. An Endocrinologist was asking the Surgeon questions as he was doing the surgery.

I learned that they have to do the Intestinal Rearangement first(it takes about an hour)before they do the next surgery.

With the Intestinal Rearrangement, they just sew up gaps between the intestines and a couple other techniques. I'm not a Medical Person but I have to agree with you that just doing that surgery would not benefit the Patient much.

The stomach has to be stapled(or banded)to make the stomach into a small pouch in order for the Patient to lose weight because then they cannot eat much thus relieving the body of Diabetes.

I was going to put the links on here but it seems I was unable to get the links. Perhaps those videos were not meant for public viewing. I will try to find how I got to that site and bring the videos on if I am allowed to.

Do ask your Father's Dr. if he will be doing more than just the Intestinal Rearrangement.
 

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Thanks for the interesting video Richard. Wouldn't it be Nice if we could all have the surgery to get rid of Diabetes? Actually, some Diabetics would say No to it since they love food alot. I had heard that some People actually stretched the little pouch left of their stomach by eating too much somehow and gaining weight back. Not all of it, I imagine. Nothing is impossible, I guess.


Okay Polito....we are marking your words. ;)
 

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Thanks a lot folks for all your valuable input. :)

I managed to get appointment to the doctor who would be operating.

I guess i will now be better prepared and can ask him the right questions.

My big concern is that this being a very recent development is it possible that the doctor is treating my father for clinical trial without telling him what he is about to do ..

To be treated like a guinea pig without you being aware of it is a bad feeling..
 

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psingh said:
My big concern is that this being a very recent development
I'm not sure what you mean.


Firstly, if you do not feel comfortable with your Father's Dr., then please get a second opinion from another Dr. There is no need for anyone to be a guinea pig in these surgeries since the first ones were done(I believe) in 1993/94. Then improved upon through the years. I would presume that the Drs. in India are aware of most of the newer techniques. You're Welcome! :)
 

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I haven't found the original links that I was going to put on here but here is another site that explains the surgeries. In these cases, the Intestinal Rearrangement is done after the bypass.

Warning: The second video shows the operation on the inside of the body.

IABS - Gastric Bypass

Best of Luck on your Father's decision and end results, whichever he decides.
 

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This makes very little sense. The woman in the video that is back at the start of this thread hasn't even had an A1c test, and she is declaring that she has no diabetes. She talks about what she eats, and then says her BG is 110, which correlates to a T2 who eats what she apparently does, in the small quantities she takes in. Then we find she is on meds, which will also lower her BG and help control it, so even tho its a harsh word, this is a scam. Nothing in that video shows that she did anything but lose fifty pounds, and so her BP went down, Duh!, and she barely eats, and never anything chocolate, so she thinks she is not a diabetic.

Where are the results of the A1c tests, and what about a fasting glucose tolerance test? What were her numbers prior to the surgery? If I eat zero or nearly zero carbs, my BG never goes above 115, and fasting numbers are in the 70-80's or so, but I am a type 2 diabetic, and there is no doubt because if I fall off the wagon, my BG goes up accordingly.

We need to quit fooling ourselves. There is no cure for diabetes, and there never will be. Pharmacutical companies sell strips for $1 a piece. That is a cash cow that they have NO motivation to eliminate. Healthcare companies are not about making people healthy, its about making a lot of money for a few people.

Sorry to be negative, but nothing presented here points towards anyone curing diabetes.

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I read the article about gastric by-pass surgery curing Type 2...asked my doctor about this (in Canada you can get this surgery for free if you are morbidly obese). Although I could qualify, my doctor says that by-passing your stomach to cure diabetes is like removing your eyes to prevent blindness. Gastric by-pass is serious surgery with many complications and ongoing maintenance, regular vomiting, etc. The lifestyle changes required to live with gastric by-pass are far more restrictive than the lifestyle changes required to live a healthy life with diabetes.
 

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I read the article about gastric by-pass surgery curing Type 2...asked my doctor about this (in Canada you can get this surgery for free if you are morbidly obese). Although I could qualify, my doctor says that by-passing your stomach to cure diabetes is like removing your eyes to prevent blindness. Gastric by-pass is serious surgery with many complications and ongoing maintenance, regular vomiting, etc. The lifestyle changes required to live with gastric by-pass are far more restrictive than the lifestyle changes required to live a healthy life with diabetes.
Not to mention that there is a high mortality rate.
 

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Never stop asking!

John, i understand your feeling towards health care companies and your complains are true. I do not think they would ever give up the money they are currently making to help us get cured but as a doctor, i will like to advice you not to give up on us! You see, i believe that even though medicine is so dependant on pharmaceutical science, well wishing doctors could research cure for diabetes soon but it is not going to be a cheap one either. lol
So, when you go for your regular check ups, never stop asking your doctor for a cure. He might just decide to help you with the secret to cure your diabetes( type 2 only) as i doubt there will ever be a cure for type 1 sufferers.
 

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Hi Friends

Please help me out in understanding is there any permanent cure for Diabetic Type 2 ? I have recently diagnosed with Type2 Diabetic iam on tablets glymulin-1mg

What is this Gastric Bypass? does this cures permanently iam very new patient just 2 months back i got this and iam just 34 years old

Please give me good tips to cure this

Thanks in advance

Syed

The only cure (if it does not Kill you) that I have heard of is surgery that removes ALL of your visceral fat. Visceral fat is the fat that surrounds you organs inside your chest cavity and abdomen.
it is suppose to be 85% effective
If I remember correct it has a 9% fatality rate. and only works on T2 where the pancreas is still making insulin.

You can put diabetes into remission by loosing weight and exercising. But it will come back given time or weight gain.

Sorry, your in it for the long haul.
 

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John, i understand your feeling towards health care companies and your complains are true. I do not think they would ever give up the money they are currently making to help us get cured but as a doctor, i will like to advice you not to give up on us! You see, i believe that even though medicine is so dependant on pharmaceutical science, well wishing doctors could research cure for diabetes soon but it is not going to be a cheap one either. lol
So, when you go for your regular check ups, never stop asking your doctor for a cure. He might just decide to help you with the secret to cure your diabetes( type 2 only) as i doubt there will ever be a cure for type 1 sufferers.
I like to be optimistic, but I don't think that there is a "secret cure" for type 2 diabetes yet. There is ongoing research everyday, and perhaps one day there will be a cure.
 

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I see that this is not a cure as there is other reasons in your body that has made you a Diabetic. This operation is in short restricts your eating habits.

The real cure is Lifestyle!! Eat the right foods, Exercise!!
 

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Hey,

COuld you please share if you finally decided to have the surgery? If yes, how was the experience? My mother is a diabetic patient since last 12 years and I am also exploring options to possibly cure it permanently.

THanks,
SWati

Hi

My father is having typ2 2 diabetes for past 10 years now.
Till now he managed to avoid Insulin by proper diet control but now he is finding it difficult and has moved onto Insulin.

Recenting i read an article in newspaer saying that for obese people having Type 2 diabetes Gastric Bypass was done which not only cured theh obesity but also irradicated Diabetes as well.

This treatment works for non obese person as well.

i went and met the doctor and they tell me that by aproscopy they do some intestional rearrangement which cures diabetes permanently.

I wanted my father to go for this operation but not sure how many people have already tried this or not? whether this eorks or not?

BTW teh doctors sound very confident that the patient can be permanently cured in this way.
 
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