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I may have asked before but I'm gonna ask again...in the morning I have to have an angiogram and maybe have a stent put in my right leg. I'm violently allergic to the dye, so I've got to have IV steroid prior and then by mouth for a few days to prevent angio-edema. I know already from a prior experience that my BG will sky rocket and I'm prepared for that to happen because I just have to have it and pray it works, but is there any wisdom out there? I think I'll be able to take what comes, but have any of you had something similar and can advise? I know if it gets too high I can ask for short term insulin treatment, but how high is too high???????
 

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I have had 2 angiograms done and woill never waste my time having another one done. If it was me at your point in life I would tell them to go pound sand.
 

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HI...I'm sorry but I don't have any experience with this but I did want to say that I will be thinking of you and I hope it all goes very well...
 

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But my foot tingles and the circulation appears to be bad...and I sure don't want to lose it. Besides, I don't want another stroke...the small one I had in 2007 left me in fine shape but for my ability to feel heat and cold, thank God. I thought it was a migraine headache at the time. No other symptoms until someone handed me a cold Coke and I took it with my left hand and didn't know why it was not cold...

"What point in life"? Yes, I'm 72, but want to be walking around if I'm still here at 100! I just read the other day that old age doesn't begin at 65, but 72+, so what's the old saying..."You're only as old as you feel"? And I sure don't feel OLD yet.

I must ask...why would you not have another if you needed one? What happened if you don't mind telling us. And, how old are you?
 

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yes and they will keep pocking and proding and that next 25 years will just be a living hell. But you do what you think is best. As far as my experiences with them I have posted on here about them before. Heart specialists only know one thing, that one thing is open heart surgery. I went through my own colatteral bypass before anything could be done and my last one they almost killed me and would have put me in DKA if I had left it up to them to manage my glucose. I won't do it again. If I die of a massive heart attack tomarrow I will at least die happy. Extending life does not make it better.
 

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Thank you for editing your original post and explaining your experiences. I'm so sorry you had to go thru that, and now understand your comment better. You are right about extending life may not be worth it, but my concern is that I could be alive but unable to function and that scares me even more!
 
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hi Pat :) just want to wish you well for the procedure. Your question about too high with the BGLs before insulin.... I think anything over 8 (144) you probably would need help with insulin. But here they would probably give it to you anyhow if your BGLs were constantly over 10 (180). Not sure if it would be the same in the hospitals there?
 

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Hi Pat,

I had a heart attack on the 23 of March this year and had two stents put into my heart during an emergency operation. While i don't remember them doing so, they must have used a contrast solution to be able to see the blockages in and around my heart. I remember lying on the operation table watching on the tv screen in full video as they snaked the catheter through my arteries and inserted the two plain metal stents. I felt the initial incision a bit as well as the beginning of the catheter being moved around but after that, I felt nothing.

Afterwards, while in recovery, they did a series of blood tests and two days later informed me that I needed to do a Glucose Tolerance Test as my bloodwork showed a higher than normal A1C (6.3). My BG levels didn't react that much to the operation and subsequent testing and probing.

The stents made such a huge difference in my life. I immediately felt stronger, had more energy and felt more clear-headed. I went from a pallid grey complexion to one with a nice pinkish color. My hair regained some of it's color.

Now…I can't really answer what is too high a level afterwards for you as everyone is different and as I said, I don't react to that kind of thing. Remember that you probably went years with high levels before being diagnosed so if you need to take a week or two post-op to get your levels down from the highs that you get then I don't see a problem with that but my best advice to you is to talk with your doc about it beforehand and get his/her advice.

Good luck with the angiogram!
 

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i really don't know but it sounds strange to me,
yes, you are an old diabetic so you have PAD ( Peripheral Arterial Disease ), that is often treated with ascorbic acid, lysine, and proline if your blood pressure is high, or Blood Pressure meds.
most of us finally get tingling/pain in our toes from neuropathy which we often treat with, R-faction Alpha lipoic acid, and maybe Primrose oil, biotin, etc, or pain killers.
it sounds to me from your brief description that you are panicking, did you get a second opinion? maybe you should.

just my personal opinion
 

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Many Good Thoughts winging your way!
 

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Stenting can be miraculous in some circumstances. Many people with multiple sclerosis are getting near total alleviation of symptoms thru a venous stenting procedure known as CCSVI. Main problem with it and any stenting is blockage can recur if the cause isn't removed. I'm 46 not 72. I won't know til I'm there but I imagine I'll be just as enthusiastic about keeping a leg at 72 as I am now. I hope your stent has or will go well. Let us know.
 

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Well,the good news: it appears the allergic reaction to the dye was controlled...I took the last prescribed steroid this morning. I've had some very high (for me) blood #'s, but not that bad in the overall picture...I couldn't test a lot for obvious reasons, but the highest I had yesterday was 165 and this morning prior to last dose was 150 and I haven't tested again since coming home from the hospital.

The bad news was he found two total blockages in my femor and could not be stented as he couldn't get one of his three into the calcification. He suggested yet another try using a different process in about mid-July. In it, he would put 'drills' at both ends of it (I may not have gotten that right or exactly) and try to meet in the middle. According to him this is preferable because recovery is so simple compared to by-pass which would still be possible. He says any blood getting to my foot is now caused by collateral vessels formed during the years it has slowly been closing down.

Meanwhile, I will see my cardiologist's partner Friday for a second opinion. I asked for the full report and a CD of the angiogram and was graciously encouraged to seek a second and everything I asked for, so will be able to hand carry both to him. Not all practices are so forthcoming, so more points to his practice. I'm so glad that they are being so gracious because in the end I want all of this in my cardiologist's hands anyway.

He did find some other deposits which need to be watched and one which could be of interest involving my long standing back problems. They yet could be connected and if so, perhaps aided.

Now, a confession that should change at least one person's attitude to my age...I'm only 71, not 72! So, not yet elderly by the new standards. And, for what it's worth, the nurse came in in the ICU, looked at me and said with surprise " You sure don't look 71, at most I'd guess you are 62'! That became even more interesting when they brought the other stent patient in and she looked 80 to me and the woman with me, and overhearing her intake interview, it turns out she's two years younger than I am!
 

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Pat

I'm so glad everything went better than you thought, at least with regards to BGs...

Will you make a decision on the July procedure after your second opinion?? or are you all ready decided?

As for the age thing...I spent my entire 35th year thinking I was 36....I discovered my mistake a week before my 36th birthday......

And isn't eavesdropping on everyone else fun?!...You never know what you'll hear... I took my daughter to the ED once....and we were in the cubicle with the curtins around us and a Dr walked into the cube next to us and I hear her say to the little boy....
"SO you've broken your leg..how did you do that?"
and he replied " I was wearing a towel as a superman cape and jumped off the tree house"

and she tells him " my husband does that sometimes too!!"

Rest up well Pat and keep us posted :)
 
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Good to see there's more to be done for this blocked artery . . . they'll get blood to that foot or else know the reason why! Good that the dye problem was well covered too - good preparation.

As for the age thing, if I ever forget which year I was born, I'm in big trouble, because half the time I have to go back & count from 1945. Geez! :dizzy:
 

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"As for the age thing...I spent my entire 35th year thinking I was 36....I discovered my mistake a week before my 36th birthday......:

I did it once before now that you mention it. And it was about the same age, so be prepared to do your math in about the same # of years!

I am on the steroid 'high' and feel so much younger despite the not so great results of the test.

No decision yet, but the one here will have to be really out of line to convince me not to follow the current fellow's efforts. I'm also interested to see my cardiologist's thoughts as I think the very best of him and his manner as well as respect in his community. The less invasive the better in my opinion! I want to live as well as I can as long as I can have my brain intact, and this should bear on it actually.
 

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So glad to hear that everything worked out, Pat. Even if the stenting didn't work this time, it sounds like they are very optimistic for the next time and it's also great that they found so many other areas of interest that can help improve your health.
 

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Thank you for seeing it just the way I choose to...of course I'm sorry it wasn't a quick, fast fix, but still it can prove to be a true blessing in the long/short run. As far as my cardiologist told me last year, other than a murmur , not unusual for a woman having children, his opinion was that we'd discuss that in the next decade of my life, but some of this could be important for him to see.

I feel like it is a good thing and wonder how long people put up with what they think that is neuropathy caused by diabetes not caused by other problems.
 

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Doesn't really matter what causes it if you have diabetes that is what they will blam it on.
 

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But my fasting blood glucose has only been over 100 for a couple of years. And, I lack a formal diagnosis still.

Are you really that bitter? I'm really not, just glad I had an A1C checked as a whim. What good does bitter do me?
 

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If you have not been diagnosed and then you are not a diabetic and untill you have lived with it for 40 years you will never understand the things I say about it. Oh but waite you won't live 40 years with it.
 
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