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I've just been to dr for severe joint pain and been told my blood sugar is too high, may have diabetes, waiting on a second blood test ( fasting ) result.
I wouldnt think I would have diabetes as i have no family history, not overweight, and eat reasonably healthy diet, however this may sound silly, i am now concerned about implications re diet.
If you are diabetic does that mean you can never eat sugar again?
I dont eat a lot of sweets, mainly because i only really like home baked ones, but would hate to think i could never eat homemade cookies, apple pie or even the odd ice cream again.
Or do you simply have to limit sugars? Also i know many foods, like bread etc have some sugar.
thanks for any info.

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Hi There Broxi! :) Welcome to our Community. Nice to see you.

When I was diagnosed many yrs. ago, it was a definite "No Sweets".
But after I left home, I did have them in my diet since I was born with
a sweet tooth and I thought it unnatural not to eat some.

In 1980 something, I noticed in the magazine Diabetes Dialogue here,
saying that it was okay for Diabetics to eat some sweets as long as
they fit it into their diet and removed another item off their meal menu
to compensate or to take extra Insulin or exercise more.

Most foods are converted into sugar(glucose) by the body since it
requires glucose to work effectively. I believe the brain uses the
most out of all the organs in the body since it runs the whole machine.

We didn't know any Diabetics in all of our Family either before I was
dxd. But People die of heart attacks, etc. and don't know about the symptoms of Diabetes so they could have had it and died leaving us
in the "dark" because they were not diagnosed.

Even today when this happens some Drs. in some countries don't check into "Why" they died of a heart attack since they don't think of it or it costs too much for the testing.

Although joint pain is not a main symptom of Diabetes, prolonged high
sugars do eventually cause it including the commom, "frozen shoulder".
High blood sugars can be caused by other things including medications.

I am Glad that you are getting a fasting blood test done. Labs mess up sometimes also.

Getting a test for Rheumatoid Arthritis would be helpful also. It comes
in mild and severe forms and is also an autoimmune disease like Type 1 diabetes.

As I mentioned before anyone can get Diabetes. You don't have to be
over-weight or have a bad diet.

Diabetics can eat moderate amounts of sweets as long as their sugars
are in decent control normally. It may be harder for Type 2's if their exercise/diet, and oral meds. do not keep their sugars down normally.
Or if they are over-weight their own Insulin does not work well enough.

Anyways, I hope you are not. Good Luck. :)

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Thanks for your reply. I've actually been tested for diabetes several times as i have always had excessive thirst and trips to the loo, but that is since childhood. I was borderline near the end of my pregnancy, but always clear until now. I cant really see the joint and bone pain being diabetes, but it may have made me more likely to show a sugar level as I am usually very active, walk at least 1 mile a day and play football etc with 2 year old son. The last flare up with joints has been really bad, curtailing my activity, and also my cooking, so been eating fast food etc which i dont really like very often.
I was very thin beforemy pregnancy 8 stone at one point, and i'm 5'7" and used to like walks of 5-10 miles.
Really hope its not diabetes as i would hate any type of controlled diet, i just grab somethiing when i'm hungry. My son is still breastfeeding some so i eat regularly ( at least one meal a day) but before that would often skip meals for days.
If it is diabetes i wonder if getting back to a very thin build would fix it?
I just hope something can be sorted with the bone pain as its really messing up my routine. I have broken several bones in the past and this is every bit as bad as a fresh break, but its every bone at once.
Oh and they've tested for arthritis too, negative.

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If it is diabetes i wonder if getting back to a very thin build would fix it? I just hope something can be sorted with the bone pain as its really messing up my routine. I have broken several bones in the past and this is every bit as bad as a fresh break, but its every bone at once. Oh and they've tested for arthritis too, negative.
Hi Again. :)

Losing weight is always helpful if a Person is Diabetic or Pre-Diabetic.
It can help in controlling it. It will not get rid of it unfortunately.

There are over 150 types of Arthritis.

The incidence of rheumatoid factor increases with duration of disease in rheumatoid arthritis: at 3 months the incidence is 33%, while at one year it is 75%. Up to 20% of rheumatoid arthritis patients remain negative for rheumatoid factor (also known as "seronegative rheumatoid arthritis") throughout the course of their disease.

Recognizing Rheumatoid Arthritis Symptoms

Rheumatoid arthritis usually develops gradually, but some patients experience sudden onset of symptoms; one day they are perfectly healthy and the next they are dealing with rheumatoid arthritis symptoms. Symptoms which are commonly associated with rheumatoid arthritis include:

-Joint pain, joint swelling, joint stiffness, and warmth around the affected joint
-Morning stiffness which lasts one or more hours
-Symmetrical pattern of affected joints, meaning the same joint on both sides of the body is affected (e.g., both knees)
-Small joints of the hands and feet are characteristically involved, although any joint can be affected
-Rheumatoid nodules (firm lumps under the skin), found on elbows and hands of about one-fifth of rheumatoid arthritis patients
-Fatigue and noticeable loss of energy
-Low grade fevers and sometimes flu-like symptoms
-Loss of appetite, weight loss, anemia associated with chronic diseases, depression
-Dry eyes and dry mouth associated with a secondary condition Sjogren's syndrome
-Joint deformity and instability from damage to cartilage, tendons, ligaments, and bone
-Limited range of motion in affected joints

Flares and remission of disease activity is characteristic of rheumatoid arthritis
Rheumatoid arthritis may affect more than the joints and have systemic effects (i.e., affects the organs of the body)

Rheumatoid arthritis affects people differently. No two rheumatoid arthritis cases are exactly the same. There is so much variety in symptoms, some researchers suspect rheumatoid arthritis is not one disease but perhaps several diseases with commonalities.


-Don't ignore pain that persists.
-Don't assume you injured yourself.
-Consult with a rheumatologist, a medical doctor who specializes in diagnosing and treating rheumatoid arthritis patients as well as other rheumatic diseases.
-When you consult with your rheumatologist, always discuss symptoms which have improved or worsened, as well as any new symptoms.

If a Person has this Arthritis, it has to be aggressively controlled so
it does not cause deformity. This disease can also cause death.

***Then there is also Fibromyalgia.

Symptoms of fibromyalgia include:

-Chronic muscle pain, muscle spasms or tightness, and leg cramps
-Moderate or severe fatigue and decreased energy
-Insomnia or waking up feeling just as tired as when you went to sleep
-Stiffness upon waking or after staying in one position for too long
-Difficulty remembering, concentrating, and performing simple mental tasks
-Abdominal pain, bloating, nausea, and constipation alternating with diarrhea (irritable bowel syndrome)
-Tension or migraine headaches
-Jaw and facial tenderness
-Sensitivity to one or more of the following: odors, noise, bright lights, medications, certain foods, and cold
-Feeling anxious or depressed
-Numbness or tingling in the face, arms, hands, legs, or feet
-Increase in urinary urgency or frequency (irritable bladder)
-Reduced tolerance for exercise and muscle pain after exercise
-A feeling of swelling (without actual swelling) in the hands and feet
-Painful menstrual periods

Symptoms may intensify depending on the time of day -- morning, late afternoon, and evening tend to be the worst times, while 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. tends to be the best time. They may also get worse with fatigue, tension, inactivity, changes in the weather, cold or drafty conditions, overexertion, hormonal fluctuations (such as just before your period or during menopause), stress, depression, or other emotional factors.

If the condition is not diagnosed and treated early, symptoms can go on indefinitely, or they may disappear for months and then recur.

Call Your Doctor If:

You have chronic muscle pain and overwhelming fatigue.

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Hi Again Broxi: :)

I hope that you are doing well.

broxi3781 said:
Thanks for your reply. I've actually been tested for diabetes several times as i have always had excessive thirst and trips to
the loo, but that is since childhood.
I was just wondering if you had ever been tested for
(water)Diabetes Insipidus(DI)?? I know that you have
been tested for (sugar)Diabetes with negative results
but the test for DI is different. I think you said you
were in the UK? The tests would be free there also.
It would just take a bit of your time but well worth it.
Just a thought. ;)

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thanks for your replies, I dont have diabetes, the test came back neg, but this time the rheumatoid factor came back off the charts - the highest dr has ever seen, so am waiting for a specialist. Also still extremely low red blood cells.
Just hope they get somewhere with it, I do run fevers quite often at night, often very high. Also I am a des daughter which i understand increases risks of autoimmune diseases, and have had anticardiolipin antibody problems which was a factor in multiple miscarriages until finally given heparin with my son.
I hadnt heard of diabetes i., but am a bit afraid to annoy dr with something else at the moment as i am really annoying them with the joint thing. Its been going on for years, just getting steadily worse, and this time is a nightmare. At first they put it down to pregnancy hormones, which they said could last 1 1 /2 years after the child was born, then kept saying to just take paracetemol and wait a few months and so on.
Well at least they are sending me to a specialist, but it takes ages here on nhs.
thanks again for all your help.

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Hi Ya Broxi:

God, you're a DES Daughter also? You've sure been given
a heavy cross.

Your Dr. may be annoyed with you?? :mad: Tough for him.
It's his job to look out for you. You're a high risk in the first
place. By the sounds of it, he should have had you tested
yrs. ago and got it under control with the proper DMARDS
and NSAIDS that would work for you.

If a Person has one autoimmune disease, they and their Drs.
have to be aware of symptoms of others. My Dr. sends me
for tests each time I have symptoms of possible other diseases.
I hope that you do not get dxd. with any others.

It's Wonderful that you got your Little Bundle of Joy though. :D
How is he doing? Many Blessings to him.

I was dxd. with severe RA 2 yrs. after my Son was born(I was 24).
:( As you can imagine, that was BAD. When he was about 8 he
told me he was sorry that I got RA because of him.

I couldn't believe that he had such an idea. I assured him that he
had nothing to do with it. Kids, eh?

Hey, I'm going to pm you a site if that's okay. The head Mod. is
an absolute Doll. Her name is Molly and she helped me a lot. She'll
gladly answer all your questions when you get a final dx. and when
you're ready. Many Great Ladies there to help. If you need me for
anything, just ask. Much strength to you Girl. YW! ;)

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diet adjustment


Diagnosed as Dibetic,you are bound to stop taking white
suger preparations of any kind,you may take Fruit preparations
with simultaneous adjustment of calories intake with other
sources,ofcourse remaining within the limits of permissible

Good day,

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