Sorry Kevin, I've never tried and natural products except vitamins. Hmmm??? Are vitamins really natural products? I noticed that when I use a vinegatette dressing on my salads my blood sugar drops low. Vinegar will do that to some people. I use about 6 tablespoons of dressing on my salads. Cinnamon will supposedly have the same effect but I have not tried that. Since I have used insulin for 63 years and I am doing very well I really do not look for natural products.