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Hi All,
If you have read my previous posts ,they are USUALLY about my HIGH BG numbers and my ever increasing weight!!
Without repeating myself , I am prepared to make the move to a LC/HF diet. I followed Dr. Bernstein's a few years back but I had LOST a great deal of weight prior to following that , so I just stayed the same. I am wondering If someone can please give me a run down of their 3 meals plus snacks a day. I am NOT sure how exactly to start. Dr. Bernsteins diet does NOT tell you exactly how much protein to eat. I eat alot. 1 year ago I started taking Levemir and Apedra and metformin. I was told I am now type 1. I am always starving!! I also work out 4 to 5 times a week.THANK YOU!!!
 

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If you seriously mean LC/HF, then make sure you don't skimp on the high fat part. If you're eating as much protein as you say you are, it could be stalling your weight loss. That being said, my contention is that controlling your blood sugar must remain the primary goal, and everything is secondary to that.

Go back to Dr. Bernstein's plan since you know it works for you. Or look up posts from our member Salim (smorgan), who has maintained ketosis for over a year now on protein & very high fat way-of-eating & needs no meds to control his diabetes. Ketosis means his body is burning fat instead of carbs. If you intend to go LC/HF, then you really can't let carbs back into the plan, because they screw up the equation.

Eat whatever you like for whatever meal is coming up at any given time. That's one of the biggest freedoms you can allow yourself in eating this LC/HF regimen. If you want rib steak for breakfast, go right ahead & eat it. If you want bacon, tomato & avocado wrapped in a lettuce leaf - go ahead and eat it (in fact, I had this for my breakfast just two days ago). Don't be restricted by society's notions of what is proper food for certain meals - that is just so much commercial exploitation to sell pop-tarts & cold cereal.

Get to work with your meter - find out which foods are safe for you to eat regularly/frequently (keeping your blood sugar under 130-140 at all times), and then build your menus with these foods and eat them whenever you want - meals, small meals, snacks - any time of day.

Concentrate on getting plenty of fat in your plan: Start using coconut oil - 3T per day, whether you want to stir it into your coffee, make candy with it, or just fry your pork chops in it. Make use of dairy butter, cream, sour cream & rich sauces like homemade hollandaise & full fat mayonnaise.

Keep your fridge full of zero-carb eats like hot wings (no breading, of course), deviled eggs, all kinds of full fat cheeses, etc. Try out these crackers & these cookies. Comb our recipes section for more recipes you might like - there's everything in there from soup to nuts.

Success will come when you give up carbs & don't look back.

p.s. I think you'd been diagnosed type 2 in the beginning, but that changed to type 1.5? Why do you think you're now type 1? Have any definitive tests ever been done or are the docs just winging it with guesses?
 

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Shanny, Once again you are here to help me ( and everyone else here on this forum) Bless you for that and your vast knowledge!! Thank you for your help!!Yes, you are right I was first Dx's Type 1 , then 1.5 , now type 1. Had to switch endo's in order to get a peptide C test. Results I think were 23...whatever that means. I have NEVER had chicken wings for a snack. I fear that I would be eating too much.That is why I stayed the same in past and didn't lose weight. I lost weight upon DX because I ate VERY little. Metformin made me sick to my stomach. I was popping Gravol like candies. I was genuinely afraid to eat. Once I started insulin I started gaining. I am at my heaviest and it feels horrible.!! How much of anything can we eat.? Egs in A.M. ...How many?? Lunch..What to eat?? snacks...how many??
 

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You're confusing low-calorie with low-carb/high-fat. Once you get rid of the carbs, you don't have to worry how much you're eating as long as you have a good balance between protein & fats. Less protein, more fats. Try to forget about the calories & the volume. The amount you eat matters a lot less than WHAT you eat.

What are some of the foods you like? Do you really LIKE eggs for breakfast? Then make up a three-egg omelet with cheese & other zero-carb goodies and put several strips of bacon or patties of sausage along with it. Just don't include ANY toast/biscuits/muffins/etc. Strictly omelet & meat. Or scramble a big bowl of eggs with full fat dairy cream & all the extras - cheese, bacon bits, parsley, chives/scallions - whatever you like. Microwave instructions here.

Hot wings have saved my very LIFE! They're easy to make - just bake them until the skins are good & crisp, they douse them with melted butter & hot sauce. If you like them with dip, a good rich bleu cheese or ranch is terrific. Try to get past the notion that you have to starve yourself & eat like a bird. This is not how LCHF works. You don't need to gorge yourself, but you need to eat until you're full - if you can schedule eating smaller meals more often, do that & you won't have so much time to get hungry.

Search our boards for low carb & high fat. Find posts & threads by Beefy, John.in.France, Smorgan. There are plenty of others too that thrive & lose weight on LCHF. Nearly everybody here eats some variation of LCHF because it WORKS! :D

Hmmm . . . lost part of this post. Trying again . . .

We have three sticky threads in the Diabetes Forum Lounge. We keep them running so people can see what we're working with & how we can combine foods to make fabulous meals with very few carbs. Some of us can tolerate more carbs than others, so take that into account & use your meter to determine which foods you can eat day in & day out without raising your blood sugar.

What's for breakfast?

What's for lunch?

What's for dinner?
 

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I love Dr Bernstein and use it as a frame work for my diet. But I tend to adapt it to my own tastes. I probably eat 30-40 carbs a day but for breakast I eat under 3-5 carbs, lunch may be 15 and dinner may be 10. For breakfast bacon, eggs are my favorite or a low carb home made english muffin or bagel. For lunch I eat a salad with lots of greens, cheese, avacado, nuts and some meat. Dinner is usually 2-3 oz of protein, with 2 veggies or salad. Snacks are cheese, nuts, LC cookies and snacks. Since I am not on insulin I can't address that but adding food with fats should help. Many people have to bolus for protein so watch huge intakes of it.
 
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Just remember, there's TWO doctor Bernstein's and people sometimes confuse the two diets.

Dr. Stanley K. Bernstein is NOT a diabetes specialist and advocates a low-CALORIE (basically starvation-mode) diet. This is NOT healthy for us.

Dr. Richard K. Bernstein is the diabetes specialist, and advocates a VERY low-carb diet. He doesn't get into calorie specifics or macronutrient breakdowns (that I'm aware of). He DOES recommend no more than 6g of carbohydrate at breakfast, and 12g each at lunch and supper. He does not encourage snacking.

Following the 6/12/12 rule for carbohydrate grams will most certainly lower your blood sugars, and if you eat the rest of your required calories from mostly fat, with a moderate amount of protein (up to 20% of your calories from protein), you should also lose weight and improve your lipid profile.

The only reason you should take in EXTRA protein is if your body requires it due to 1) regular weight-training to increase lean (muscle) mass, 2) your exercise is at endurance-athlete level (ie: long-distance running or cycling - 2hrs plus per exercise session) or 3) you carry a lot of muscle-mass naturally and wish to maintain it.
 

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WOW!!! What an education I am getting!! I didn't know that I have to consider bolusing for carbs.....????
I wish Dr. B did list amounts that promote weight loss. I do everything overboard..including food quantities. I know too much protein can affect weight loss.
Thank you Gang, for your advise, help and knowledge!!
 

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Shanny, Once again you are here to help me ( and everyone else here on this forum) Bless you for that and your vast knowledge!! Thank you for your help!!Yes, you are right I was first Dx's Type 1 , then 1.5 , now type 1. Had to switch endo's in order to get a peptide C test. Results I think were 23...whatever that means. I have NEVER had chicken wings for a snack. I fear that I would be eating too much.That is why I stayed the same in past and didn't lose weight. I lost weight upon DX because I ate VERY little. Metformin made me sick to my stomach. I was popping Gravol like candies. I was genuinely afraid to eat. Once I started insulin I started gaining. I am at my heaviest and it feels horrible.!! How much of anything can we eat.? Egs in A.M. ...How many?? Lunch..What to eat?? snacks...how many??
I would double check that C-peptide number. I thought the normal range ran between 0.8 - 3.5. If your number is 23, then you are making a HUGE amount of Insulin and would not be Type 1.

I've been dx'd as a Type 2, but don't make much Insulin according to my C-peptide number - which has been decreasing over the years. Mine was 3.1 in 2007 - back whenever I had good BG control with diet alone (no meds or Insulin). My Ha1c was 5.7 in August, 2008, but JUMPED to 11.7 ten months later (June, 2009) for reasons no one has ever been able to explain to me.
 

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OOPPPSSS.....Sorry, I meant I count carbs NOT Protein!!!
Whew! That's a relief! ;)

I'm going to trust that some of our type 1 - 1.5s will pipe up here because I think some have to bolus for protein too - especially if you're eating a lot of it.
 
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