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Greetings everyone!

I don't know how I found this site, but I did. I was looking for Diabetic friendly low carb smoothies last I remember. lol. :eek:

I have been on Metformin for 5 years. It did NOT make me lose weight. I was reading some posts here that people were losing weight.
I am on Lisinopril HCTZ for high blood pressure too.
I have seen 3 different docs. All they do is dump more meds on me. Pretty soon they are going to say I'm a noncompliant patient. Well, to them maybe I am, but I know how I feel and they are not listening to me. The patient shouldn't know anything and should just listen to the doc. One doc couldn't find anything wrong with me from the symptoms I was describing to her. Dizziness, weight gain, weakness, anxiety, tiredness, irritability. She flat out told me it was all in my head and I should go see a psychiatrist......I did. There is nothing wrong with me!

My bg's in Jan. were 160 -190 A1C was 8.2 down from 8.3. She wants me at 6. My normal weight was 145. Its slowly been creeping up. I was up to 205 pounds. I'm 5'3 and am 48 years old. According to some charts, I am obese...After that appointment, she had me on injections of Levimir (pen) 10 units 1x/day in the morning. That was along with 1000mg of Metformin 2x/day. She put me on it because it was garanteed to make me lose weight....Bull!....3 months later, I am stressing out about going to the docs. She took me off the pen and was going to put me on something else. I flat out refused. I told her that I am gaining weight, I can't stop eating carbs, and when I change my diet, like now, I HAVE to eat when I'm not even hungry. My A1C went up to 9!! So now she wants me on Glyburide 2.5mg 2x daily. She said don't take it if I don't eat or bg would bottom out. That little sentence was enough to scare the bejesus out of me. My bg DID bottom out on me once. It went down to 40. I thought I was gonna die!! I feel like hell and start seeing spots if it gets down to 70.
I cannot take the Glyburide and she wants me to call her this week. I'm totally afraid to. I am hypersensitive to medications. (I'm even allergic to most antibiotics).

I asked her to give me 90 days. I'm up for my blood work for my A1C at the end of July. I found a book called "The Diabetes DTOUR Diet". There is a 2 week phase where you ease into it. By the 5th day, I can't handle it anymore! I feel like crap, I'm jittery, grumpy, emotional. I know it's all hormones rebelling, but I don't know what to do to keep at it. I DID go from 205 down to 197. Because, of the plain and simple fact, I'm getting 1,400 calories a day on this diet, but if I'm not hungry, I don't eat!

I need to quit stressing about going to the docs in July. The cortisol levels are probably astronomical, which in turn makes more fat & higher bg levels.

I walk every day for 45 minutes to an hour. I have no moral support. My husband says he supports me, but in order for me to talk to him I have to shut off the tv, take away his cell phone and hide all shiney objects......Some days its not even worth the struggle.

AND, I am in the middle of Menopause! :wacko:
 
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Welcome, Madea! :welcome:

You'll find lots of info and support here. In fact, I see on another thread that Beefy has already gotten off to a good start!

Folks who don't have D can offer support, and in time can learn to do it well. But there's no substitute for getting together with folks who've Been There.

I think menopause and diabetes hit me at the same time, too. Aaaaaahhhh, good times! But I was only very recently diagnosed. I didn't suspect something else was going on during The Change.

Looking forward to getting to know you better!
 

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Welcome! Hopefully we can help you break your unhappy cycle.

For me, very low-carb (Atkins) was the way to go to keep my BG under control and lose weight without being hungry. When you are carb addicted, you need to go cold turkey, dropping down slowly will only prolong the very uncomfortable in-between stage.

I instantly went from massive carbs to 20 a day (15 from salad vegetables) then came the withdrawl.. hunger, headache, waves of exhaustion, diahrea, constipation, nausea... you name it - for 3-4 days - for some people it's a little longer. This is your body begging for more carbs and the only way to break the hold carbs have on you is to tough it through this transition. You just have to be very strong for a short time. You don't ever have to be hungry - eat protein and fats anytime - no calorie counting. Once the carb addiction is broken you should find that you only get hungry when you don't eat - real hunger not carb begging "hunger".

Eventually I did start eating less because I want less. As long as you don't give your body the carbs it will quit begging for them. I never go hungry, I eat whenever I want to.. but not carbs. It might not work for everyone but most times it does.

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welcome Madea :) glad you stumbled across this forum. I'm sure you'll find it a great place for support and info. Getting the right balance of food and meds can be hard sometimes... but don't worry you'll get there. As you say, stress is no help at all... so breath. Keep us posted on how you're doing.
 

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Wow, thank you everybody! I think I am going to like it here. :biggrin:

Wink/Vicky, what you said about the carb withdrawl makes perfect sense. I also learned from my Chiro that part of feeling so bad with the carb withdrawl is that my hormones (insulin & cortisol) are so used to being elevated, that they are making me feel like a war zone is going on inside me. So, carb withdrawl & lower hormone levels 10, me 0!

My real name is Rhonda btw. Madea is my alter ego. lol

I am going to be in this community for a looooong time. Looking forward to getting to know all of you as well. Like I said, I really don't have any support.
My mother-in-law is Type 1 and she is absolutely no help at all to me. She was dx'd when she was a teenager. She's 60something now. But she refuses to take care of herself and eats whatever she wants. Her 2 sisters, her mother & grandfather all are/were T1. Her mother went blind and eventually died from it. Her grandfather had both legs amputated and died from it. One sister is in the last stage of renal failure and needs weekly dialysis because of it and the other sister has had 3 toes amputated. If THAT doesn't scare her or bother her, then no amount of preaching from me is going to change her mind.

So, I'm here with a new attitude and hopefully end up with a new me!
I am presently going through carb withdrawl now AND having a hot flash.
Wow!! Nice cold bottle of water helps..............
 

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lol @Shanny.
Sometimes I have to do BOTH!

Reguarding my first pot above:

I was also on a new Non-insulin called Victoza. OMG! I was supposed to see "significant weight loss" on that too. I was on it for a month and I actually gained weight. It made me sicker.

I'm concidering seeing an Endo. I've been reading the pros an cons about them on here. Currently I am seeing a Nurse Practitioner for all of this. My Primary doctor is hard to get a hold of and his appointments are always way out.
I know physicians are important to see when you have diabetes, but I'm starting to lose my trust in them. Rather than helping me, they just dump the meds on me. Try this or that and we'll see you in another 3 or 6 months. I've been misdiagnosed, over medicated, looked down upon, and blown off.
The dietician is of no help at all either. I've used up the 4 visits that my insurance allows. If 1800 calories don't work, then go down to 1200. Well, gee thanx! What I learned on here and my other research, I could be concidered and expert too!
My body is producing enough insulin, but my cells are not absorbing it. Insulin resistance right?
 

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Try toughing it through the Atkins diet for however long it takes. I lost from 183 to 138 from July to Jan and it brought my cholesterol down amazingly and my BG to good levels without drugs, yet. It does take some getting used to in the beginning few weeks both as to feeling and wrapping your head around the fact that you can have all sorts of wonderful things you've thought for years you couldn't have like full fat cream in your coffee, in fact, full fat everything, lots of great meats, even wine with dinner if you wish. Now, I can eat a small amount of good bread if I smother it in real butter...not everyday of course, but when eating out and the bread smells especially good. Beefy does have a good note about weight, but this worked for me and very well! Look at what you CAN eat, not what you can't. That's what I did.

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Jumping in late, howdy!

Yes the meno fairy and the beetus fairy BOTH waved their wands over me, at the same time, too.

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't HCTZ implicated in Diabetes onset?
 

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Welcome - my image of you now is in stone: scurrying around hiding your husb's shiny objects ... :)

I'm here to piggyback on the lowcarb bandwagon and what it can do for blood glucose and weight. A few months ago at dx I dove into lowcarb eating, first because I was terrified to eat carbs, then because it made sense. I've brought my bs down considerably, with the side benefit of dropping weight like crazy. Now, I have a lot to lose (60 more lbs) but have lost 23 since my endo appt in Feb.

My weight pile-on was mostly in the last 5 years, and dramatically the last two. I now realize I didn't get diabetes because I was fat, but got this fat because I had diabetes. Once my carb addiction was strangled, I started having hunger I could trust. Before, my eating plan consisted of, "well =that= looks good."

Off to the hospital now to pick up my first A1C lab result (and nasty lipids) since dx. I feel like I used to at university after finals - both excited and scared to get the results!

Glad you've joined this great forum.
 
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Welcome to DF. Your story sounds like mine. When I was in my late 40's, I realised I had kept on way too much baby weight from all my kids. My last daughter was born when I was almost 40, and that weight never came off. Add the stress of moving across the country and the beginnings of menopause and I was totally bummed. I was almost 200 pounds at 5" 3.5" I think I was in a size 16 dress. I wore sweats all the time. I decided I was going to change. I had also been active playing tennis, but I started to add kickboxing, Pilates, water aerobics and weight lifting to my workouts. In 6 years I was down to 148 and looked fantastic. That is when I was dx'd with Type 2. After all that hard work, the doctor told me to try to lose more. I thought he was nuts. I went to the dietician and she gave me a diet that had all this processed food which I don't normally eat. It was way too high carb for me. After one $60 visit I decided that I wasn't going back. I started to experiment with different diets and finally came upon a book called DIABETES SOLUTIONS by Dr Richard Bernstein Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. A Complete Guide to Achieving Normal Blood Sugars. Official Web Site At first I thought there is no way I could follow the diet so I kind of did it half baked. When I decided to make the commitment and do the 30 carbs per day, the weight just fell off. Actually last summer I had to increase carbs for a few months because I lost too much. I am now 60, soon to be 61 and weight 118 in a size 4. I owe this all to low carb/high fat diet with a lot of walking. Good Luck.
 
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Jumping in late, howdy!

Yes the meno fairy and the beetus fairy BOTH waved their wands over me, at the same time, too.

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't HCTZ implicated in Diabetes onset?
Wow, you know.....I forgot all about that. About a month after I was on that is when my dx for "beetus" was confirmed too. What weird is I had originally gone to the doc for Bronchitis. How they came about the dx is beyond me.
My Mom & Gma both had/have T2. Gma was on 1 pill a day Diebinese? But she wasn't diagnosed til she was 72. My Mom was dx'd when she was 70 (3years ago) She controls hers with diet & no meds. I was 44 when I was dx'd.

I also have a self dx of White Coat Syndrome! My blood pressure does go way up when I see a doctor. This last time I saw her I hadn't taken my bp med yet. My bp was 120/79. She said that was too high. She wants me down to 110/70. Sure, wait till I pass out before they even look at that too. The doc that put me on the Lisinopril HCTZ only saw me ONCE! He didn't know me from Adam. The follow-up visit for the Bronchitis he put me on 3 different bp meds. Atenolol was one of them.
THAT one gave me a false positive reading in my blood tests for Pheochromocytoma. Which is cancer of the Adrenal glands. So, fo 2 1/2 months he had me believeing I was dying of cancer. I went to get a second opinion. The next doc wondered why the hell I was on so many meds if I was only pre-hypertensive, but he still kept me on the Lisinopril HCTZ. He took me off the other 2, ran more blood tests and said I don't have cancer, but my Thyroid readings were out of wack. *smh. I had 3 fibroid tumors on my Thyroid. They have shrunk to almost nothing although the right side feels "full".

Now that I am talking about this, that just reminded me that the Victoza injection pen that I was on also could enlarge the Thyroid and or give you Thyrpid cancer........

See what I mean? Meds & doctors are NOT my forte. :wacko:
 

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Yep I have white coat HTN too -- except with my Internist! and that is how I got on ramipril, but I am okay on that ...

You might see if you can get off the HCTZ and see if it improves your blood sugar, at some point though.
 

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Hang in there!
I wasn't happy with the nurses and students I kept seeing either. In the beginning with bg levels over 500 they had me on 1 actos a day for months which needless to say did nothing for me. I wasn't even overweight and the first thing they diagnosed me as was a type 2 which now I know wasn't a correct *assumption*. Eventually they worked me up to insulin which they had a huge problem getting me stabilized on. I finally got in to see an Endo and she's got me on a good track now. She seems to understand the disease and it's effects much better than they did.
As far as the carbs go....I've found it pretty easy actually to cut them. I just had to break a few bad habits first. It does take some effort and stick-to-itness on your part and you have to commit to a change. Now that I have taken matters seriously I've cut my insulin usage in half and am losing weight after I gained almost a 100 lb. in less than a year.
There are tons and I mean tons of really good stuff to eat that are low and/or no carb. You'll find a lot of them here.
Good luck and Welcome!
 

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Welcome to DF. Your story sounds like mine. When I was in my late 40's, I realised I had kept on way too much baby weight from all my kids. My last daughter was born when I was almost 40, and that weight never came off. Add the stress of moving across the country and the beginnings of menopause and I was totally bummed. I was almost 200 pounds at 5" 3.5" I think I was in a size 16 dress. I wore sweats all the time. I decided I was going to change. I had also been active playing tennis, but I started to add kickboxing, Pilates, water aerobics and weight lifting to my workouts. In 6 years I was down to 148 and looked fantastic. That is when I was dx'd with Type 2. After all that hard work, the doctor told me to try to lose more. I thought he was nuts. I went to the dietician and she gave me a diet that had all this processed food which I don't normally eat. It was way too high carb for me. After one $60 visit I decided that I wasn't going back. I started to experiment with different diets and finally came upon a book called DIABETES SOLUTIONS by Dr Richard Bernstein Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. A Complete Guide to Achieving Normal Blood Sugars. Official Web Site At first I thought there is no way I could follow the diet so I kind of did it half baked. When I decided to make the commitment and do the 30 carbs per day, the weight just fell off. Actually last summer I had to increase carbs for a few months because I lost too much. I am now 60, soon to be 61 and weight 118 in a size 4. I owe this all to low carb/high fat diet with a lot of walking. Good Luck.
You're right. We sound a lot alike. My NP & GP both told me if I lose the weight I may not need any of the meds. Well, I'm caught up in a vicious cycle here. The more meds they put me on, the more weight I gain.
I've been struggling on my own since Christmas, but I managed to lose only 9 pounds. One doc says my Cholesterol levels are perfect, one says no and wants to put me on meds to lower it. I'm going with hell to the NO! No more meds. This is another reason I weighed the pros & cons of an Endo. These guys are killin me!
 

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Hang in there!
I wasn't happy with the nurses and students I kept seeing either. In the beginning with bg levels over 500 they had me on 1 actos a day for months which needless to say did nothing for me. I wasn't even overweight and the first thing they diagnosed me as was a type 2 which now I know wasn't a correct *assumption*. Eventually they worked me up to insulin which they had a huge problem getting me stabilized on. I finally got in to see an Endo and she's got me on a good track now. She seems to understand the disease and it's effects much better than they did.
As far as the carbs go....I've found it pretty easy actually to cut them. I just had to break a few bad habits first. It does take some effort and stick-to-itness on your part and you have to commit to a change. Now that I have taken matters seriously I've cut my insulin usage in half and am losing weight after I gained almost a 100 lb. in less than a year.
There are tons and I mean tons of really good stuff to eat that are low and/or no carb. You'll find a lot of them here.
Good luck and Welcome!
Thank you Aimster! What you just posted has helped me already! :D
 

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Best part is, so many D and meno complications are identical! My weight shot up to true obese levels right at the same time. Then went down again. I was dieting, but was suspiciously successful. Now I'm trying to lose 35 stubborn pounds.

I just checked out the DTOUR diet online. Never heard of it before. Looks like it includes juuust enough carb to give me cravings and spikes! Just speaking personally, of course.

I eat what my meter allows me to. Have found to my sorrow that I'm extremely carb-sensitive. The technique is called "eating to your meter." It's the only way I know to manage levels, since we're all so different that no diet package could possibly work for most of us.

My own family is about 100% Type 2 diabetic, both sides. And the in-laws have a lot of Type 2 as well. So far, I'm the only one who's had to cut back this drastically or go on meds at all, let alone insulin. Hope it truly stays that way! In a way, it's like being surrounded by 100% non-diabetics. They are eager to learn how to support me, however (I like it when everyone ignores the D, so I'm easy). Still, it's ... a process, shall we say.

I like my medical team (lucked out there!), but have learned to depend on them mostly for tests, D-meds, tips on insulin use and such. And I still double-check 'em on everything! For diet, I rely on my meter, this Forum and low-carb recipe sites.
 

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Welcome - my image of you now is in stone: scurrying around hiding your husb's shiny objects ... :)

I'm here to piggyback on the lowcarb bandwagon and what it can do for blood glucose and weight. A few months ago at dx I dove into lowcarb eating, first because I was terrified to eat carbs, then because it made sense. I've brought my bs down considerably, with the side benefit of dropping weight like crazy. Now, I have a lot to lose (60 more lbs) but have lost 23 since my endo appt in Feb.

My weight pile-on was mostly in the last 5 years, and dramatically the last two. I now realize I didn't get diabetes because I was fat, but got this fat because I had diabetes. Once my carb addiction was strangled, I started having hunger I could trust. Before, my eating plan consisted of, "well =that= looks good."

Off to the hospital now to pick up my first A1C lab result (and nasty lipids) since dx. I feel like I used to at university after finals - both excited and scared to get the results!

Glad you've joined this great forum.
Thank you Moon! Good luck with your results. I'm rootin for ya! Keep us posted when you get back.

I'm noticing a HUGE change in my bg when I eat even one piece of whole grain wheat toast. It doesn't spike much, but I do notice for a tight time snack...Doc said 1/2 of a ham sammitch on wheat with 8oz of skim milk. That might work for SOMEbody, but not me. My fbg is 200+ when I eat that. If I have veggies or fruit or even sugar free applesauce, fbg is between 148 -180.
 

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I'm late to the party, but I have a 5 week old baby, so I'm allowed ;)

Ditto on what everyone else said. It doesn't matter how many calories or how much fat I eat... as long as I cut the carbs, the weight comes off. Blood sugar gets better the more weight I lose, and the longer I'm doing low carb.

Glyburide can definitely make your numbers crash... I was on it through my last pregnancy, and you have to learn how your body responds to it. I had to eat every 2-3 hours, and if I didn't, I'd start dropping. Sounds like your dose was too high though. Never had any luck with Metformin...after months on it, past the initial irritable bowel issues, I started getting severe stomach pains. Doctors seem to think I should just live with it and get mad when I refuse to take it again. I hate the way they just throw meds at you, and I'm sure some people do need them... but I had one doctor prescribe me cholesterol medication (side effects: constant headaches and constipation) b/c one of the side effects could be better glucose control...I didn't even have high cholesterol!

I dropped my A1c from 9.2 to 6.0 in 6 months due to diet and glyburide though. Now that the pesky placenta isn't making me even more insulin resistant, I'm trying to figure out the balance of carbs and meds...and might be able to get off them completely..
 
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