[nallakutty]

hai all,
first of all im from India and please ignore my bad english.
Im new to this forum. Still I have visited here from a long time but registered now only. Let me tell the story (Not too long). I was diagnosed with high BP before 5 years (When i was 26). from there having "LOSAR - H" for controlling blood pressure. After 2-3 months i've had unusual sensation like Dizziness, feeling lightheaded and increased heart beat. I was very concerned about my heart. Gone several times to causality with high heartbeat. All the results was good, Xray, ECG etc. But same thing happened several times. So my doctor sent me to a psychiatrist. He diagnosed that Im having depression and panic attacks. He gave some medicine and relaxation exercises. That was fine for one year. After some big family problems anxiety and panic attack strike back with more symptoms. So he changed the medicine to higher doze. Now Im having lozar h for BP and 1mg Ativan for anxiety in the morning. At night zapiz 0.25 , prothiaden 75 and depakote 750. Sorry for the long story, now coming to the real problem, One day I have checked my blood sugar with Onetouch ultra it was 210mg /after food. I was shocked, I dont have a diabetic family background. I have stopped eating sugar and high glycemic foods. My sugar level down to 124 - 130 after food. So i have relaxed and stopped the sugar test. Yesterday i just checked my fasting sugar and it was only 108mg , but after my breakfast (some sugar also, like tea with sugar and some potato dish) after 2 hours when i checked my sugar level it was 220mg. Im really scared. 108 to 220 . Now im totally worried. Am i diabetic? or any of the above medicines (anti-depressants) making me diabetic? or that "Losar - H" im eating for BP for years? Hope somebody have answer to this situation.

 

[diabetes86]

Dont need to panic, Those numbers are something to worry about, but see an Md, could be the meds your on doing it.

Even if you are diabetic you know how to control it (you did it once) and you lived.

 

[Richard157]

There are many medications that will cause high blood sugar. That particular high that you mentioned might have been caused by the potato dish. and the sugar in your tea. Potatoes are one of the worst foods for diabetics. Try the same meal without the potato and use an artificial sweetener for your tea. You might not have any high blood sugar after that meal.

Richard

 

[Shanny]

Welcome to our forum. You should be concerned and you should be diagnosed. So see your doctor. Do you have one main doctor who oversees all of your other doctors and knows everything that's going on? It's good to have a "traffic cop" doc who can monitor the big picture when you have many specialists prescribing many remedies.

If you'd like to get a head start, you can avoid using sugar, potatoes, breads, rice and other high carb foods which are pretty much certain to raise your blood sugar levels.

This is not something you can practice for awhile and then relax your vigilance. You will prob'ly need to make a few adjustments in your eating habits in order to maintain safe low blood sugars, but there are good substitutions for high-carb foods, and you can use portion control to great advantage. Low carb eating is not an austere lifestyle, and certainly not depressing.

Another benefit of keeping your blood sugar in control is that it often helps lower blood pressure too . . . and can alleviate other health problems as well.

hai all,
first of all im from India and please ignore my bad english.
Im new to this forum. Still I have visited here from a long time but registered now only. Let me tell the story (Not too long). I was diagnosed with high BP before 5 years (When i was 26). from there having "LOSAR - H" for controlling blood pressure. After 2-3 months i've had unusual sensation like Dizziness, feeling lightheaded and increased heart beat. I was very concerned about my heart. Gone several times to causality with high heartbeat. All the results was good, Xray, ECG etc. But same thing happened several times. So my doctor sent me to a psychiatrist. He diagnosed that Im having depression and panic attacks. He gave some medicine and relaxation exercises. That was fine for one year. After some big family problems anxiety and panic attack strike back with more symptoms. So he changed the medicine to higher doze. Now Im having lozar h for BP and 1mg Ativan for anxiety in the morning. At night zapiz 0.25 , prothiaden 75 and depakote 750. Sorry for the long story, now coming to the real problem, One day I have checked my blood sugar with Onetouch ultra it was 210mg /after food. I was shocked, I dont have a diabetic family background. I have stopped eating sugar and high glycemic foods. My sugar level down to 124 - 130 after food. So i have relaxed and stopped the sugar test. Yesterday i just checked my fasting sugar and it was only 108mg , but after my breakfast (some sugar also, like tea with sugar and some potato dish) after 2 hours when i checked my sugar level it was 220mg. Im really scared. 108 to 220 . Now im totally worried. Am i diabetic? or any of the above medicines (anti-depressants) making me diabetic? or that "Losar - H" im eating for BP for years? Hope somebody have answer to this situation.

 

[nallakutty]

thanks every one for quick support... I will try avoiding high carb foods and check my BS level for 2 weeks. The problem is here in India especially my state kerala, the main food is made by rice, changing it to wheat, is it OK? can some give a link or some resources about high carb foods? thanks in advance... Hope i found a good resource.

 

[Shanny]

Here in the US most of our main foods are made with wheat, and it's just as bad as rice. Neither of them is any good for us diabetics, and if we want to live long and be healthy, we just have to avoid eating them so much.

If any of our other members from India know of carb charts for Indian food, I hope they'll post links. What I can tell you is that any foods made with rice, wheat, corn, potatoes, etc., are going to be high carb. You'll have to focus more on dishes made with chicken and other meats, or eggs or cheese. These are high protein, low carb, and very good for your blood sugar. Nuts, seeds and olives are good for you, and shouldn't affect your BS much at all. Just try to stay away from the rice, potatoes & naan/chapatis, etc.

 

[Nagesh Rao]

Dear all,
This is the link to Indian diabetic website.
Diabetes India Association - About Diabetes Care Diagnosis Cure treatment Diabetes erectile dysfunction Information
There is a helpful section with a map of India. Just click on the area where you are from and it gives you a list of foods that are allowed in Diabetes and also the recipes. There is a section which will allow you to plan your meals for the day. I dont think the site has quite grasped the concept of Low or zero carb diet as most of the items are high carb.

 

[Diana]

Dear all,
This is the link to Indian diabetic website.
Diabetes India Association - About Diabetes Care Diagnosis Cure treatment Diabetes erectile dysfunction Information
There is a helpful section with a map of India. Just click on the area where you are from and it gives you a list of foods that are allowed in Diabetes and also the recipes. There is a section which will allow you to plan your meals for the day. I dont think the site has quite grasped the concept of Low or zero carb diet as most of the items are high carb.

Same problem with the "experts" here in the States, Nagesh! I was totally confused when I tried to follow the dietician's recommendations on what I could (and should) eat at each meal. Way too many carbs. I believe they do that because they think we won't change our way of eating if they tell us what we REALLY shouldn't eat. I also believe that it's easier for THEM if they can just keep increasing our medications or prescribing the newest medications that the pharmaceutical companies have created. It's all out of balance and each of us has to find our way to optimum health.

 

[diabetes86]

Your doing great, however now is NOT the time to start adding more carbs to your diet (potatoes...) you need to reduce your carb intake further.

Reducing your BG to 160 from higher numbers is a good start you want to be under 140 all the time.

every time you go over 140 you are doing damage to your body, over time it ads up to complications.

So keep up the good work you are getting a handle on it "eat to your meter"

with new foods, test before you eat, test 1 hour after and 2 hours. This tells you how the new food effects your BG. you can reduce the amount of offending foods you dont have to quit eating them.

 

[Nagesh Rao]

Your doing great, however now is NOT the time to start adding more carbs to your diet (potatoes...) you need to reduce your carb intake further.

Reducing your BG to 160 from higher numbers is a good start you want to be under 140 all the time.

every time you go over 140 you are doing damage to your body, over time it ads up to complications.

So keep up the good work you are getting a handle on it "eat to your meter"

with new foods, test before you eat, test 1 hour after and 2 hours. This tells you how the new food effects your BG. you can reduce the amount of offending foods you dont have to quit eating them.

That is very sound advice. Lot of the doctors, still think that unless it goes up to 200, there is no damage. I looked up various sites and the latest evidence would suggest that cellular damage starts at 140. So it is wise to keep it below 140. I am very happy today, as all my blood results have been below 140, except the one hour post prandial reading which was very slightly above 140.

I think the trick is to eat small portions. It is amazing, how one gets full eating half of what one did before.

 

[Felonious Monk]

I ALWAYS take my "B.S." BEFORE I eat so that I can plan my meals accordingly to my numbers. Rarely do I take it AFTERWARDS unless it's to see what a specific food may have done to my "B.S." (BG to most, i'm more full of "BS" though, LOL!) I can eat 3 buck doubles and a large fry (shared with two of my 4-legger kids) and my numbers barely climb, maybe 40 points is all while something that is "ok" for a diabetic may really jack my numbers.

All I can say is like everyone else... "get diagnosed!"

 

[neeraj]

Help me out please

Dear Nallakutti,

I understand that Rice is main grains in south. But to have good BG numbers, you just have to limit your rice intake. You must try a mix wholegrain wheat flour (50%) and rest of 50% Chana dal and Desi chana for making your chapati. Add pulses in your lunch and dinner with green salads and leafy vegetable, take small meals 4-6 times instaed of 2 times in full, that will help you a lot.

Thanks, Neeraj, Ahmedabad, India.
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hai all,
first of all im from India and please ignore my bad english.
Im new to this forum. Still I have visited here from a long time but registered now only. Let me tell the story (Not too long). I was diagnosed with high BP before 5 years (When i was 26). from there having "LOSAR - H" for controlling blood pressure. After 2-3 months i've had unusual sensation like Dizziness, feeling lightheaded and increased heart beat. I was very concerned about my heart. Gone several times to causality with high heartbeat. All the results was good, Xray, ECG etc. But same thing happened several times. So my doctor sent me to a psychiatrist. He diagnosed that Im having depression and panic attacks. He gave some medicine and relaxation exercises. That was fine for one year. After some big family problems anxiety and panic attack strike back with more symptoms. So he changed the medicine to higher doze. Now Im having lozar h for BP and 1mg Ativan for anxiety in the morning. At night zapiz 0.25 , prothiaden 75 and depakote 750. Sorry for the long story, now coming to the real problem, One day I have checked my blood sugar with Onetouch ultra it was 210mg /after food. I was shocked, I dont have a diabetic family background. I have stopped eating sugar and high glycemic foods. My sugar level down to 124 - 130 after food. So i have relaxed and stopped the sugar test. Yesterday i just checked my fasting sugar and it was only 108mg , but after my breakfast (some sugar also, like tea with sugar and some potato dish) after 2 hours when i checked my sugar level it was 220mg. Im really scared. 108 to 220 . Now im totally worried. Am i diabetic? or any of the above medicines (anti-depressants) making me diabetic? or that "Losar - H" im eating for BP for years? Hope somebody have answer to this situation.

 

[Felonious Monk]

Dear Nallakutti,

I understand that Rice is main grains in south. But to have good BG numbers, you just have to limit your rice intake. You must try a mix wholegrain wheat flour (50%) and rest of 50% Chana dal and Desi chana for making your chapati. Add pulses in your lunch and dinner with green salads and leafy vegetable, take small meals 4-6 times instaed of 2 times in full, that will help you a lot.

Thanks, Neeraj, Ahmedabad, India.
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Sometimes the best thing to do for information is to search Google. AFTER eating a good diabetic meal your BG should be up around 180 so don't freak out if you eat a high sugar or starchy meal. I ALWAYS take my BG B-E-F-O-R-E a meal that way I can know what and how much of anything I can have, remember, it's like a fire, you monitor the fire and give it enough fuel to keep it burning is a LOT easier than checking AFTERWARDS and it's like a fire out of control! It's easier to control a fire than trying to put out a blazing inferno, get it?

 

[Shanny]

Until we get a fix on which foods send us into orbit and can eliminate those from the menus, a good practice is to test both before AND after the meal. Starting out nice & low - like around 90 (5) - does give you some wiggle room, but I'd become very distressed if my postprandial got anywhere NEAR 180 (10)!

 

[Felonious Monk]

Until we get a fix on which foods send us into orbit and can eliminate those from the menus, a good practice is to test both before AND after the meal. Starting out nice & low - like around 90 (5) - does give you some wiggle room, but I'd become very distressed if my postprandial got anywhere NEAR 180 (10)!

Well maybe I'm retarded or just quoting sources that are BUT here is where I got my information:

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services' National Diabetes Education Program (NDEP) is jointly sponsored by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) with the support of more than 200 partner organizations.

And this is what THEY say:

Before meals 90 – 130

1 to 2 hours
after meals less than 180

 

[Shanny]

Then "they" are wrong, Mr. Monk . . . Apparently "they" don't have diabetes themselves, or "they" would know better!

(and at that rate, what doesn't make us stronger, surely WILL kill us, right?!)

 

[Richard157]

I agree with Shanny. I have been a diabetic for 65 years and i have good control, without any diabetes-related complications. I try and keep my BG 90-100 as much as possible. I aim for 120 two hours after meals and if it is higher than 130 I take some extra insulin to bring it down. I expect it to be 90-100 four hours after meals.

 

[Wink]

I'll jump on this bandwagon. My goal is under 140 all the time. I think that is the prudent thing to do to protect myself.
The "experts" recommended a diet for us that is totally wrong so I wouldn't trust them to advise the right glucose levels either.

 

[Felonious Monk]

Then "they" are wrong, Mr. Monk . . . Apparently "they" don't have diabetes themselves, or "they" would know better!

(and at that rate, what doesn't make us stronger, surely WILL kill us, right?!)

LOL! Maybe that's why "2 out of 3 people with diabetes die from heart attack or stroke"?:yield: