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I've been using a lot of supplements for about 2 years - amongst others Benfotiamine, Q10, Pantethine,ChloroInositol, Resveratrol, Vit E (Full Spectrum), Vit K, TMG, Omega3 fish oil, Krill Oil, Astaxanthin and a few more. A big handful twice a day. Costs were enormous but my A1C came in at 6.2 on low carb diet but I cheated from time to time.

Since January I dropped the supplements completely except for Vit C (Pauling Protocol) and Omega 3 oils. Reason was that the costs were enormous and I was also not sure about the benefits.

Since January I also followed a low carb diet much more diligently - still cheating now and then but that is an exception.

Today my A1C came back....at 7

Because of following a LCHF diet much more diligently for the last two months I expected to get a figure below 6 but what a HUGE disappointment. It seems that the supplements did indeed make a difference insofar as A1C is concerned.

Back to the supplements for me.
 

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Could you add them back one at a time & maybe determine which one or ones were doing the heavy lifting - helping the most?
 

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Oh and forgot that my previous 6.2 was without any medications - just the supplements. Since January I'm on Metformin XR 2500mg per day. I think I'm now convinced about the value of supplements that inhibit glycation. My BS is now much better because of the Metformin but obviously there is more glycation taking place than what was the case with higher numbers but using supplements.
 

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If you bring them back one by one as Shanny suggested, I'd be interested in hearing which ones helped the most.
 

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I think all of us have experimented with supplements. Some may work and some don't. I agree with you they are very expensive. I am also not convinced that overdoing supplements don't cause other problems down the road. So just because something is not prescription doesn't mean it doesn't have side effects. As far as the metformin, the amount you are taking is very small. You admit you cheat on your LC diet. I think most of us have found that when we cheat our bgs go up. How many times a day are you testing your bgs? I have known D's who have asked for another HbA1c. Labs do make mistakes sometimes.
 

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I've used a complete regime of supplements specifically suggested for me by a pharmacist specialising in nutraceutical treatments. What I'm going to do now is to determine which of the supplements are definately known to inhibit or prevent glycation and hopefully I can get down to 4 or 5 supplements only and not the huge handful I was taking.

Whilst only using supplements my BS readings were roughly between 6 and 8 but with consistent DP in the region of 10. Not good but the a1c came in always very close to 6 which is not good but not too bad either. Towards the end of last year I used the supplements not so diligently anymore, skipping some days and/or using it only once a day and not twice a day. My a1c then came in at 6.5. I should have seen the warning there already but I didn't.

January I decided I want to get in under a1c of 6 and the only way I thought was with Metformin. So I dropped the supplements, motivated myself to let go of the odd fruit now and then and following a low carb diet much more diligently. My BS came down to between 6 and 7 and my morning spikes came down to about 7.5. I must confess that I test at most 2-3 times a day.

My new strategy now is to continue with the Metformin / lchf diet and i will also bring in a few supplements that are known to inhibit glycation. Must just do my home work properly to decide which supplements to use.

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My favorite supplement is intense exercise. Weight/resistance and other interval training is the best thing you can add. :)

Other than that I still take a multi-vitamin, fish oil (because I honestly don't eat enough fish), aspirin (family Hx of heart-disease), vitamin D (Canada - not much sunlight in winter) and Cinnamon.
 
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