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I would like to see a tv show like biggest looser for diabetes. Half would be type1 and half would be type2. This way we could show the public the true differences and the difficulties each type faces. We could cover everything from waking up to going to sleep as well as sleep cameras. We could also cover the simple things in life like meal time, and exercise. Would love to hear your thoughts.

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Such a TV show would also be a good opportunity to educate health care professionals who really don't know how the daily routines they prescribe actually affect their patients. It would give them a look at the daily life of a person with diabetes. I like your idea.
 

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I'd be a fan!
 

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I think you would have to do more than 2 halves of the show. I think especially with Type 2's we are all so very different that no one thing works for all of us. You would have to cover tons of diet options, medication options, etc. You would also have to cover the fact that 20% of us are quite thin and don't need to lose weight. It would really shake up the common misconceptions about diabetics.
 

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I'd be a contestant!

No, I think it should be straight up competition for best results. To be meaningful, you'd have to divide the contestants not just into T1 and T2 but also like boxers into "weight classes" based on severity or stage of their diabetes. You could use initial A1C or some other measure.

"And the winner in the 12.0 - 14.0 class is..."

Let the opinions and approaches meet head one - but "fairly" by dividing the classes. It would be kind of like the "Diet Wars" in cyber space but would yield actual useful results instead of just a lot of closed threads!
 
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There is a half hour show called "dlife". Some of the reports are interesting but some are also what I hear from the dietician, and therefore are not helpful for me.

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I'd be a contestant!

No, I think it should be straight up competition for best results. To be meaningful, you'd have to divide the contestants not just into T1 and T2 but also like boxers into "weight classes" based on severity or stage of their diabetes. You could use initial A1C or some other measure.

"And the winner in the 12.0 - 14.0 class is..."

Let the opinions and approaches meet head one - but "fairly" by dividing the classes. It would be kind of like the "Diet Wars" in cyber space but would yield actual useful results instead of just a lot of closed threads!
This would be good except A1C's are not the best measure of control with out including their standard deviation.

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This would be good except A1C's are not the best measure of control with out including their standard deviation.

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I know, that's why I said "or some other measure". The point is if you want to compare different approaches to diabetes, you need to separate between very mild "caught-early" cases and more advanced ones with very little pancreas left.

We see this all the time on these boards. One person will boast, "I can eat nn grams of carbs per day and have excellent numbers." Then, someone else will chime in and say, "That would make my numbers skyrocket! That's what I eat in a week."

The, we all do the big KUMBAAAAYA called YMMV.

Turns out maybe the first one was diagnosed with an A1C of 8 but the second on started at 16. OF COURSE they require different regimes for a favorable result. No surprise there. Yes, I know it's not a perfect measure, but we would need some way to stick to "apples to apples" in the proposed show - which I really hope happens!

Mind you, what I intended for the "weight classes" was INITIAL A1C (at diagnosis). I didn't really discuss measures of success which would be various things I suppose.
 

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Since A1C's are some what a new concept I would digest unannounced random blood glucose tests. Everyone would eat the same meals with no substitutions and do the same exercises. It is not about what is right it is about what everyone has to go through.

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Since A1C's are some what a new concept I would digest unannounced random blood glucose tests. Everyone would eat the same meals with no substitutions and do the same exercises. It is not about what is right it is about what everyone has to go through.

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A1c's new? There's 8 year's worth in my sig file. I no longer have records from before that.

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A1c's new? There's 8 year's worth in my sig file. I no longer have records from before that.

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They didn't have them 40 years ago or for 15 years after that. 25 years is relatively new to me. The point is control is not a complete picture if you only look at A1C's. You also need to include standard deviation.

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