[23-Silver]

So in my previous (Pre-D) life, my late nights consisted of runs to the local fast foods for a late 5th meal. Wendy's, TBell and even some McDs stay open until the wee hours of morning. I would load up with a sack of TBell and some Coke. As I learned working for big tobacco... either bring in new customers or sell more to existing customers.

Last night I turned myself into a test subject to see how an old-style binge affected me. BTW - this won't be repeated again. Purely a "Jackass" style stunt

3- tacos
1-Burrito Supreme
1- Quesadilla / Steak

Pre meal reading - 83

Finished eating at 11:15PM, 30 min readings are as follows:
11:45PM - 184 (100 point spike in 30 minutes)
12:15AM - 149 (drop of 35 points)
12:45AM - 150
1:15AM - 140

ADA, states levels should be back to normal after 2 hours. Normal non diabetic is 80 from what I understand. No where even close.

And levels this morning are a bit elevated prior to eating 129 upon waking up and about 115 a bit later. So there's a residual as well.

New diet will consist of a lot of meat - veggies - no carbs, no sugar. I'm learning.

Cheers,
23

 

[itissteve]

23, thanks for taking that hit for science. 🙂

There is something about fast food that goes beyond the carbohydrates of wheat and potatoes and ketchup/taco sauce. At least for me, as quickly as I feel hungry after eating it, it packs a big blood sugar wallop for quite some time afterward.

 

[23-Silver]

Agreed on all counts Steve. Interestingly enough, I just bought a new BlueTooth ReliOn so I can track on my phone.
And I have my original standby Prime. Took a blood reading on both machines - same blood prick within seconds of each other.

Bluetooth - 124
Prime - 141
Libre - 98

Logic would dictate taking the highest reading, but honestly, I'd like to know the "real" numbers.
Signed confused 23

 

[mbuster]

Reagents in the first strip could contaminate the remaining sample and affect the reading of the second strip. Not saying it did, but it could, and may explain the difference in readings.

 

[itissteve]

And, really, if the legally-allowed 15% variance in consumer blood testing equipment holds, we could be talking the same number. 124 + 15% = approx. 143. 124 - 15% = 105. 105 is short of 98, but if the ReliOn was off by a couple of points, we're still in the ballpark.

mbuster's point about the chemicals in the strip affecting the blood sample is a good one. It would be interesting, though, to do this a few more times to see if the variation holds.

 

[mbuster]

Yes, especially if swapping which meter is first.

Disclaimer, I do not own stock in either company, so not encouraging extra testing for profit. LOL

 

[23-Silver]

So both monitors. 23 points apart. Blood taken back-to-back within minutes. Washed hands between first and second stick / reader. Same finger. Libre came in at 88. So in essence, I really don't know what my levels are. Maybe an average of all three? or maybe go by highest.

I did a search for "most accurate monitor" and it revealed nothing worth noting.

I know my doc has told me it's about eliminating spikes.... in which case the Libre is more helpful. I can supplement it with my blood readings.

 

[mbuster]

I'd do a test at the doctors office next time I had blood drawn with each meter and use the one closest to the lab test. Put the other one away with a sticky note that said this meter is 13 points high or low. Its not so much the precision for a Type 2 but watching the trends of the readings.

 

[23-Silver]

That sounds like a good plan. I'll have my drawn at a lab in three months, right before Christmas. I'll make sure I take readings right prior to going into the clinic. I know they'll be looking at A1C, but I can always use a conversion chart.

The Libre is very good at showing trends, although not cheap.

What I've learned so far is proteins do not really change my glucose levels.

Thanks amigo,
23

 

[mbuster]

There are apps that you can get for your phone that you can manually enter your meter readings that also could show trends. Or Excel works if you know how to make charts/graphs in it. But I do like the idea of something doing that for you without having to manually enter every reading even better.

Excess protein (amino acids) can be converted to glucose if needed, but doesn't mean it will just because it's available. There are some though that have to account for the protein they eat when dosing with insulin.

 

[itissteve]

There are apps that you can get for your phone that you can manually enter your meter readings that also could show trends. Or Excel works if you know how to make charts/graphs in it. But I do like the idea of something doing that for you without having to manually enter every reading even better.

I use the app offered by my meter manufacturer (Agamatrix) though because I don't have a communication-enabled meter (Bluetooth, etc.) there's no link. That would make it easier. Just haven't done it...

There are some though that have to account for the protein they eat when dosing with insulin.

Raises hand I don't take insulin. But I did experiment with more protein than 20-25% of my calories and it didn't work well for me. The boyz over at reddit's keto forums don't seem to differentiate much between fat and protein percentages for calories but it seems to make more of a difference to some diabetics than it does to non-diabetics on keto.

 

[23-Silver]

For trending the Libre is the best IMHO. It constantly monitors and draws the charts for you. Albeit, the results are delayed. If the Libre reads 125 at 1PM, that event already took place at 12:45.

And, yes, after a discussion with my doc, all protein isn't created equal. A greasy burger is not the same as a salmon steak.

 

[ShottleBop]

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So both monitors. 23 points apart. Blood taken back-to-back within minutes. Washed hands between first and second stick / reader. Same finger. Libre came in at 88. So in essence, I really don't know what my levels are. Maybe an average of all three? or maybe go by highest.

I did a search for "most accurate monitor" and it revealed nothing worth noting.

I know my doc has told me it's about eliminating spikes.... in which case the Libre is more helpful. I can supplement it with my blood readings.

That's only 13 points apart (112-99=13). As for accuracy in meters, there's this article, from five years ago, by David Mendosa: https://www.healthcentral.com/article/testing-blood-glucose-meter-accuracy