Trouble with lantus

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fatcatsambo

Discussion Starter · Oct 20, 2010

I have had some intresting issues with 24hr Lantus.
1. an hour after i inject it, it greatly lowers my blood sugar. generally i have to eat 20g-30g of carb to counter it.

2. it tends to wear out on the 22hr to 23hr. 0hr being injection start.

I am just curious if any one else has had such exsperinces.

thankyou

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· #2 · Oct 20, 2010

fatcatsambo said:
1. an hour after i inject it, it greatly lowers my blood sugar. generally i have to eat 20g-30g of carb to counter it.

How much do you inject; where do you inject it; how do you inject it...syringe or pen. What needle size? What I'm leaning towards here is that you may be injecting into a muscle sometimes. That will definitely drop your BG as Lantus is a 24-hour insulin. It releases its insulin into your body by converting the liquid injection into crystals that slowly release their insulin into the body. Another explanation could be your Lantus dosage is too high. What's the history on you and Lantus?

fatcatsambo said:
2. it tends to wear out on the 22hr to 23hr. 0hr being injection start.

This happens in some cases. Just curious...how do you know exactly when the Lantus wears out? That's a very specific time. As an option you can choose to split your dose of Lantus to twice a day and see how that works for you. If Lantus doesn't seem to be what works for you...you can try double dosing Levimir.

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ColaJim

· #3 · Oct 20, 2010 (Edited)

Warning! if you are Type 1 disregard anything i say, i am type 2

Not me { i split my Humulin N into 3 shots, 8 hours apart }, but the people say that Lantus will not last 24 hours so they split it into 2 shots, like maybe one in the morning and one upon retiring.

fatcatsambo said:
I have had some intresting issues with 24hr Lantus.
1. an hour after i inject it, it greatly lowers my blood sugar. generally i have to eat 20g-30g of carb to counter it.

2. it tends to wear out on the 22hr to 23hr. 0hr being injection start.

I am just curious if any one else has had such exsperinces.

thankyou

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onaughmae

· #4 · Oct 20, 2010

When I was taking Lantus, I took mine in 2 doses 12 hours apart. It worked better for me that way.

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· #5 · Oct 20, 2010

I think Lantus works a little different in each of us. I did an experiment last December to see how long I could go without insulin in case the Apocalypse caught me unawares. It took 6 days before my blood sugars started rising.

As a comment here...I don't think that Lantus waning off at 23 hours, or 22 hours, or even 20 hours is going to be a big deal. It's a basal insulin that works at an idle. Now, if Lantus were to work for longer than 24 hours in some people...I might be concerned as you would get into a form of stacking. That the makers of Lantus designed it to work no longer than 24 hours is a good thing, in my opinion.

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fatcatsambo

Discussion Starter · #6 · Oct 22, 2010

I am type 1, i probley should have said first.
I dont beleave i am hitting muscle when i inject, but i will look out for that. thanks for that.
cutting it in half is an intresting idea, I will try that soon.
my history with lantus and any insulin is a bit all over. my body is very sensitive and is prone to change on me.

I take 8units lantus a day and use 1unit per 10grams with humalog.
lantus has gone from 9 to 6, and the ratio from 16grams to 8grams.
it all depends on my life style at the time which is an obvious answer but some of these changes have come randomly.

anyways thank you all for your input i will try that half twice a day and see if it can smooth anything out.
thanks again

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Strawberry

· #7 · Oct 23, 2010

When I was on MDI and taking Lantus, the Lantus used to last only 16 hours and not 24. I knew it only lasted that amount of time because I would test my blood sugar at various times of the day and it always started going high after the 16 hour mark.

Good Luck to you if you try splitting the Lantus dose. That is what I did too and it worked very well.

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breezeonby

· #8 · Oct 23, 2010

fatcatsambo said:
I have had some intresting issues with 24hr Lantus.
1. an hour after i inject it, it greatly lowers my blood sugar. generally i have to eat 20g-30g of carb to counter it.

2. it tends to wear out on the 22hr to 23hr. 0hr being injection start.

I am just curious if any one else has had such exsperinces.

thankyou

I have never had any issues with Lantus. For me, it works 24 hours. Many people do split their dose and I think you might benefit from dosing twice per day.

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· #9 · Oct 23, 2010

A question about your Lantus: Do you use a vial and syringe...or a pen? The reason I ask is the amount that your using. If you're using a vial and syringe...the vial contains 1000 units. At the end of 28 days you'd have to toss out more than ¾ of the vial. Were you to use the Solostar pen delivery, 2 units to clear the needle and then 8 units of insulin, out of a 300 unit pen you would use up 280 units in 28 days. You could probably even stretch it to 30 days and use the whole pen up. I don't really think that on the 28th day that insulin is good to go...and on the 29th day it isn't.

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goldengirl

· #10 · Oct 25, 2010

This is an interesting piece of data I found:

Lantus starts working at 1–2 hr after injection; peaks at 6 hr; and ends for most people at 18–26 hr, with lows most frequently at 5–10 hrs. This is from diabetesnet.com.

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· #11 · Oct 25, 2010

goldengirl said:
This is an interesting piece of data I found:

Lantus starts working at 1–2 hr after injection; peaks at 6 hr; and ends for most people at 18–26 hr, with lows most frequently at 5–10 hrs. This is from diabetesnet.com.

Sadly, and joyously, I'm NOT most people. Lantus has become a partner in my morning regimen. A reality that hardly no one previous has been able to become accustomed to; that is, being with me "in the morning". I mean, I went through 3 wives like a goose through a tuna fish salad.

Life's tough...then you die!

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fatcatsambo

Discussion Starter · #12 · Oct 28, 2010

Well i have split it into two injections a day for the lantus ans i getting better results, so i will play with this for a awhile, thanks.

I use vial and syringe. I havent had much of an issue with potency with insulin. The humolog and lantus I dont refrigerate as soon as I open them and they last 2, 3 months. I know its not recomended but it works fine. When its summer hear, if I am not carefull I can cook the insulin pritty good, but ushally its fine.
I will get smaller vials or cartridges thou that make sense. Never liked the pens to big and bulky.

Thanks Goldengirl those numbers make sense with me. I have found some doctors claim that the insulin is a perfect 24hr. Inresting but no.
Thanks you all

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goldengirl

· #13 · Oct 28, 2010

fatcatsambo said:
Thanks Goldengirl those numbers make sense with me. I have found some doctors claim that the insulin is a perfect 24hr. Inresting but no.
Thanks you all

Those doctors are buying the Lantus manufacturer's Kool-aid. It's certainly relatively flat with fewer peaks than other insulins, but perfect .... ah, no! Still, I'm thankful for it.

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