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Heyo.

I suppose I haven't been officially diagnosed yet. During my annual exam/PAP, I had blood drawn because we suspected I might have diabetes (recurrent yeast infections, constantly thirsty/urinating, am fat, black, runs in family on both sides: grandmothers, paternal grandfather, father, and a cousin with Type 1). About two years ago, during an emergency surgery, the doctor mentioned I was at prediabetic BG levels, so I low-carbed very diligently (eh, for a while), and got my FBG down to 80. But I got lazy, gained weight, etc, you know how it goes.

Now it's 260. Yeah, I know, wat? So I guess I'm not surprised, but somehow, it's still a bit devastating. Trying to skip the whole self-blame phase of this since I know it will get me nowhere. But I know there are those people who are super fit and randomly get diagnosed with diabetes late in life, and they're like, "HOW DID THIS HAPPEN TO ME?", and I'm not one of those people. Also, I'm 24.

I tested at 269 at the doctor's office, but on my home monitoring kit, I've consistently been getting 260ish every morning. 1-2 hours after meals, it gets to about 275, then goes back down. After vigorous exercise, it's about 144.

I have a doctor's appointment on Monday with a GP who specialises in diabetes, so I'm supposing I'll get an official diagnosis then.

Just wanted to say hello, I suppose. I am currently reading Type 2 Diabetes, The First Year by Gretchen Becker and Eat What You Love/Love What You Eat with Diabetes (a mindful eating program for thriving with prediabetes or diabetes) by Michelle May and Megrette Fletcher.

I'm trying to resist the urge to jump valiantly into low-carbing, even though I'm a big believer in it, based on books I've read like Why We Get Fat and Good Calories/Bad Calories...but I also know that it's necessary to do something that I'll be able to maintain. Maybe having terrible BG readings are the motivations I need, who knows.

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Hello & welcome, WG. I suspect a great many of us had that sneaking suspicion of a diabetes bullseye on our backs, but still when it happens, it's like we've been slapped upside the head. Wish you hadn't needed us, but sure glad you found us.

You've read a lot of really good material about this, and having already tried low-carbing, you have a good idea what you have to do.

When you low-carbed before, were you incorporating high fat with it? That's been the key for me, because I'd never be able to sustain less than 30g carbs per day, if I couldn't count on using butter, cream, bacon, and all the other decadent full-fat products that LCHF allows. And the clincher is, LCHF has rid me of all the digestive difficulties I've battled for years; no more reflux, belching, bloating, cramping, flatulence. Plus it has lowered my cholesterol levels. Yep - high fat regulates cholesterol - much more safely and cheaply than statin drugs.

I'll shut up now before I run this off the bottom of the page, but I'm really glad you're here. Looking forward to getting better acquainted.
 

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Hello Wailingiant. You came to the right place for some support and advice. I'm sure the smarter people will be along shortly to give you more information. Everyone has to handle the gut punch of a diabetes diagnosis in their own way. I can relate in that I'm also over weight so while my diagnosis was a shock, it wasn't really a surprise. Blaming yourself is pointless since it sounds like from your family history and background insulin resistance was going to happen anyways. It's also not helpful because unless you have access to time machine you can't change anything that happened in the past anyways. Fretting about what you did before is just going to get in the way of making the life changes that you need to make now. Being a bit lost and depressed when first getting diagnosed is normal. Getting the diagnosis even when you've been suspecting it for a while is a big blow. But even then its something that you shrug off and keep going. Sure, diabetes is life changing but it doesn't have to be life destroying. Once you get in control of managing diabetes it just becomes another part of your day. Checking your blood glucose level is just another chore (and this is coming from a complete needle phobe). You really didn't need to eat all those simple carbs anyways, they weren't helping you. You can pick yourself and beat this.

I got diagnosed in March and I feel way better than I did 6 months ago. I used my diagnosis as the impetus to finally take charge of my health that I should have been doing anyways. I've lost 40 pounds since then. I'm exercising a lot more now and I have a lot more energy than I did.

You can control your diabetes, it doesn't have to control you.
 

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Thank you so much for your responses!

@Shanny - Indeed, I was eating high fat. Basically, for about 6 months, I ate anything I wanted, but tried to stick to unprocessed foods and keep my carbs below 30g a day. I was doing it primarily to lose weight, and lost 25 lbs, but I got very frustrated when I stopped losing weight (we're talking about a 2-month plateau), which led me back to consuming lots of sugar.

It's such a shame, because my BG levels were great then, and my lipid panels have always been awesome (and even continue to be -- doc was really surprised about how my blood sugar was when compared to everything else, which was in a very healthy range. Le sigh.) I think I'm going to try low-carbing/high-fatting for a bit, but hopefully not get too fanatical that it becomes an obsession. I sometimes feel for me that leads to a really hard fall later. I've been dieting my whole life, since I was 9, and it's always the same. Diet. Lose Weight. Then gain even more weight than I lost after a time when I'm finally not able to stick with whatever program it is any longer.

@segfault - Thank you for your kind words. I'm hoping this will be the impetus for some healthy lifestyle changes. You know, I don't eat terribly, but it's only in the last couple of weeks that I've started exercising and trying to really watch what I eat. BUT BREAD. Ugh. my weakness. Not a big pasta or potato eater, or even a big sweets eater, but I could kill a sourdough baguette by myself in a day.
 

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Hi, and :welcome:

You're right, blame gets you nowhere. You sound a bit like me, with the whole overweight and genetic thing going on. The thing is, we know that carbs raise blood sugar, so eating low carb really does make sense. Like you, I had started dieting by the age of 9, maybe even a bit before that.

The nice thing is, you can get control of this, and you can do it knowing that you don't have to risk complications of high blood sugar, later on in life. Glad you joined us.
 

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BUT BREAD. Ugh. my weakness.
Oh, you're going to love our recipe section and all our bread workarounds - actual bread. Now, I can't promise you SF sourdough, and maybe it's because I haven't eaten bread in 2 years, but lately I've been making =sandwiches= with bread I learned about here and lovin' it.

I have yet to graduate to the real bread that MCS made (he's our resident low-carb chef extraordinaire) but that's right around the corner.

I'm thinking if you stick with us, you'll be able to stick with low-carb :D

Welcome aboard.
 

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Hi wailingiant and welcome to the forum!!

Since no one has given you these links, here are a couple sites you should take the time to read. The first is: BloodSugar101, it will give you an excellent overview of how diabetes works and what we can do to control it. It will probably answer a lot of questions you may have.

The second is Dr Andreas Eendfelt's site The Diet Doctor. It really explains how the way of low carb/high fat eating works.

The important thing you have to remember here is this is not a diet that you go on for a while and then quit, this is now the way you will eat the rest of your life to stay healthy. That is why you will see us so often call lc/hf a woe (way of eating) not a "diet".

Good luck to you, looking forward to getting to know you better!
 

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@Mary - Low carb totally makes sense, yes, and I'll most definitely give it the old college try. I only worry that I'll mess it up sometime down the line, and end up in a worse way than I am now. But, aye, I don't want to go blind, or develop heart disease, or lose a limb, and of course I'd like to be healthy and fit. Let's hope I can manage it. Thank you for the welcome!

@moon - SANDWICHES!!!!! That was another thing about low-carbing before. Sometimes, I just really need a vehicle for the meat and cheese...or even just the butter/nut butter. I can't wait to look at the recipe section. Do you have a particular favourite? The market I frequent has this great low-carb frozen bread. The only thing is, it's only good toasted, so it's hard to pack for lunches. Thank you so much for the kind welcome!
 

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Thank you, grammaB! Very helpful links, especially that first one! I feel like I've done so much reading my bitty little brain will explode, but it's felt very empowering educating myself.
 

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I am a newbie here too so I will leave all the great advice to the ones who know what they are talking about but as for falling off the wagon I did that big time. I quit my Meds my diet everything for over a year. It is what it is. I don't regret doing the right thing. I know it was not good for me but it is what it is. It was where I was. I am ready now to try again. I will make it. So don't not try because you might fail. We just have to get back up even if it takes a year to do that.
 

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This is an easy one - http://www.diabetesforum.com/diabetes-recipes/16084-bread-70-seconds.html - ready in a couple of minutes - and I slice it in half and lightly toast for sandwiches. Not crazy about it on its own, but it's awesome for holding all the yummy sandwich innards, or for putting some over-easy eggs on (oh, I missed that!) I really like being able to do this to-order when I want.

MCS has been making some awesome bread, which is more like bread than the above, and my next journey: http://www.diabetesforum.com/diabetes-recipes/14122-yeast-rolls-wpi-5000-8000-a.html

... and stick around, because he's determined to master sourdough too! http://www.diabetesforum.com/diabetes-recipes/14227-sourdough-bread.html
 

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Welcome WG, you have already gotten some fantastic advice. This group is wonderful. The only thing I can add is to say, stick with this site. Visit, share, open up about your daily struggles and accomplishments, make yourself accountable. D is a personal diagnosis, it can only be controlled by your own personal actions and choices but we can all support and help each other travel the road. The accountability I feel I share on this site is what is helping me stick with it. Seeing that many have been here so long already and care about others is an amazing support. I feel that if I stick around here (the site itself) I will stick around for my family longer.
 

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@moon - Thank you, that's very helpful! I've already ran to the market to get some flaxseeds to try it. Bread and butter makes the prospect of endless breakfasts of bacon/eggs much more tolerable

@TTM - Yes, accountability, exactly. Hopefully, checking in here will make the whole thing feel so much less lonely and isolating. I'm married to someone who is 6"0 and weighs 140 lbs, eating all he'd like. So unfair! I hope that I can strike a balance between what is personally doable and what gets my sugars under control.

@kim - Thanks for your encouragement, I really appreciate it. I don't necessarily see it as not trying again -- but trying something that will actually work for me. I'm a strong, intelligent person who is very much willing to make sacrifices for her health, but I know very well that sometimes eating right is not a matter of personal willpower. History of eating issues has made me wary of any sort of diet/food plan etc. But, I definitely plan to give it a shot, and hopefully do it in a way that's workable for me long-term.
 

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Welcome! You can do it...I am a thin diabetic but lost 50 lbs to be thin again. Both my parents were thin, but my Dad had 'high blood sugar' and had to give up his cereal, sandwiches and desserts in his later years. I was always thin (too much so) growing up, but before I found this site, I began Atkins after reading Dr. Bernstein's book. It's been 3 years now and I find I can trade my sour dough bread for all the butter I want, all the bacon, steak, etc. I love the vegetables...always did!

You are going to do great! So glad you found us!
 

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Welcome to the forum from another newbie, I have been on the LCHF diet for going on three weeks now. I have a doctors visit next week ,if the doctor gives me any problems with my diet ,I'm going to fire him on the spot. For the past few years all I get is "you're not taking enough insulin" not you're eating too many carbs.

You came to the right place,keep up with yourself.

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Giving it "the old college try" is a nice way of saying you expect not to succeed in adopting a healthier lifestyle and way of eating. If you want to avoid complications (and they get nastier as they pile up), enjoy your years full of vitality and health, be around for your family and friends, then there's no alternative to taking real charge of yourself and what you choose to put in your body. After all, food doesn't jump in your mouth unbidden. We choose every moment, every day, what we will or will not allow in... or we make excuses that we're not really in control of our own self.

It took me having D for the last 40 years to really learn that for myself. I've got plenty of the complications, some of which I'm hoping LCHF will help me reverse or mitigate. I'm sure I will fail myself again, but I'll always start again at the next meal to do right by myself.

I hope you can make those daily decisions for yourself as you journey with the rest of us. We've all done the wrong things so we know what you are going through. Coming here was the first step to a new better life. Welcome aboard! :tea:
 

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Giving it "the old college try" is a nice way of saying you expect not to succeed in adopting a healthier lifestyle and way of eating.
Aw, that's now how I feel. It's just that my research into material on weight loss suggests adopting another restrictive diet ultimately will not work for me. I'd rather develop a way of eating that I'll be able to stick to for the long haul. I'm a big believer in "if at first you don't succeed, try, try again," but when I've failed at something for the better part of 15 years, I think I ought rethink my approach. After every major restrictive eating change, I end up gaining 20 lbs more than where I started, which is worse than if I hadn't dieted in the first place. It's very exhausting saying "this is it, this will be the time I finally succeed," over and over, and feeling like a failure each time I'm eventually unable to stick with it. I have choices, but I also have limits, and I'll never be perfect, so hopefully I can find a WOE that helps me control my blood sugar, but also doesn't make me feel like binge eating, or make me feel like my life revolves around what I'm not allowed to eat. Maybe I am setting myself up for failure, but I like to look at it as just thinking things through. I'm confident I will succeed; I just know that throwing out all my oatmeal or whatever will have me pigging out on donuts or whatever in a month's time, when my body's finally had enough. Maybe that makes me weak but it is what it is and I've got to find a way to avoid that.

I'm so overwhelmed by everyone's encouraging feedback. I appreciate every word. Thanks so much for commenting and giving me a much needed dose of reality.
 

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@Wayne - Ugh, doctors can be so dense when it comes to carbs and healthy eating! My mind was so blown when I first began researching all this stuff a few years ago. I felt so lied to. My whole life, foregoing eggs for granola. Sigh, what a joke. Low carb is definitely the way to go if you can manage it, especially for diabetics, obvi.

@patdart - But what do you put the butter on if not sourdough? :p My plan is to try keeping under 50 grams a day. Hopefully, it will be enough to get things to a more reasonable level, but won't be as restrictive as I was before, when I admittedly lost weight, but eventually gave in.

@hitcheca - thank you again for all the support and feedback. All we can do is keep trying, one foot in front of the other.
 

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In my mind butter goes on everything! Veges, the Optimist crackers in our recipe section! And by the way, those crackers are divine with cream cheese.

As far as diets are concerned, I used the Atkins induction diet and lost 50 lbs on it. What I like about it was the variety I could eat all I wanted of it. Now that I've learned what works for me, I have to watch that I don't lose more. I eat a large variety of foods now.
 

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You have come to the right place. Listen to all the advice the other members here have given you, they know everything.

When I first read some of the recipes (like fat bombs and putting butter on pork rinds) I thought these people were nuts, a heart attack waiting to happen. Well I have since come to my senses. I eat this way, my numbers have come down and I enjoy the recipes.

If I need to know something this is where I come. Trust me on this, you won't regret it. These folks have 'been there' and 'done that', as far as I am concerned these folks need to be teaching the Dr's.

Read all the sites they have recommended, you will learn alot.

Sorry you had to join us - but this is where it is at.

Welcome!
 
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