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***up date*** Hearts Jounrey, rsfletcher and squarksx
Son has seen a private diabetic specialist of 25 years, below is the outcome....


1. At present your glucos is completely normal - so you must have Type 2 in remission due to diet and exercise or Type 1 in a good honeymoon OR we have also seen very rare cases of remitting Type 1 when it disappears for >10 years+ and counting.
2. You should stop measuring your glucose except may be once a week after a big meal (your glucose is completely normal - if the diabetes comes back if Type 1 or Type 2 it will be very slow)
3. You have a very healthy diet - this is good for all of us but like the rest of us the occasional burger or chocolate is fine - there is no magic diet whatever any individual says on the internet for Type 1 (and any diet that reduces calories works for Type 2)

I encourage you to get on with your life while in my opinion you do not have diabetes attend the occasional hospital follow up clinic. You are in very good control
 

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I'm glad that a specialist thinks he is not type 1. However, I, personally, would have issues with this doctor's statements.
a) #1 is making assumptions, if not type1 so must be type 2.
b) #2 is if his high BG issue came upon him suddenly to begin with, why could it not come upon him suddenly again. If it does, DKA doesn't happen slowly. I would check my BG more often than once a week after a big meal, I would test it after any really carb heavy snack or meal, night of drinking, or if I was feeling "different".
c) #3, if not a misquote, calories don't make BG. A diet low in calories, if composed of mostly carbs is not good for a type 2.
d) final quote "do not have diabetes" contradicts first point "must be type 2"

Again, I am glad your son is not definitely diabetic.
 

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It appear there's no way to determine what actually happened for him to have that high BG event. This may, or may not, happen again. Occasional checking BG is prudent. I think the doctor's conclusion is very good advice... get on with your life.
 

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I'm glad that a specialist thinks he is not type 1. However, I, personally, would have issues with this doctor's statements.
a) #1 is making assumptions, if not type1 so must be type 2.
b) #2 is if his high BG issue came upon him suddenly to begin with, why could it not come upon him suddenly again. If it does, DKA doesn't happen slowly. I would check my BG more often than once a week after a big meal, I would test it after any really carb heavy snack or meal, night of drinking, or if I was feeling "different".
c) #3, if not a misquote, calories don't make BG. A diet low in calories, if composed of mostly carbs is not good for a type 2.
d) final quote "do not have diabetes" contradicts first point "must be type 2"

Again, I am glad your son is not definitely diabetic.

Pleased with what doctor said mbuster, but like you a little confused also. I believe from what son said is that if/until this comes to anything it could be a very slow on set of either type 1 or 2
So just get on with your life.
My son does check his bloods once a day, he said he finds it reassuring to do this and isn't stopping doing this
 

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It appear there's no way to determine what actually happened for him to have that high BG event. This may, or may not, happen again. Occasional checking BG is prudent. I think the doctor's conclusion is very good advice... get on with your life.

Yes VeeJay was good news to hear him say that, but he is still going to keep an eye on his blood sugars he said :smile2:
 

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I have the perfect symbol to represent your sons mysterious condition and what type he may or may not have. Growing up I became I was a big fan of a TV character who kept everybody guessing. The best part of this symbol is that it can be worn so when anybody asks if your son is a diabetic, it should be self explanatory.



The Riddler from Batman TV series staring Frank Gorshin
 
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good news. right now as of today is he not a diabetic. He should continue to monitor his blood sugars and see if they continue to remain very stable as has been the case for months. Also hopefully Dr will monitor his c-peptide every 3 mo and A1c to see how it compares to previous results. That one autoantibody that was positive last month the ZnT8, is only reason i see to continue to monitor his glucose and diet. If he is consistent in his daily total carb intake and knew how many carbs he ate a day on average, that would be even better. If he notices he is gradually running higher glucose levels over time or his A1c is jumping or is feeling more sluggish, then have him discuss with Dr. To be even more pro active, he can lower carb intake and increase fat and protein

I thought of you Hearts as you said very similar to the specialist ...
He didn't say much about the ZnT8 test, just that is the only reason to check after heavy meal
 

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Hi anyone interested my Son has been at the hospital yesterday
He had his A1C test which averaged out at 5.5 (32)
All still good!!
 

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That's good news, Lily! He's still watching his health and taking care of himself?
 

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Hope everyone has had a lovely Christmas.
Thought I would give you an update as I haven't posted for a good while.

Son still doing great, he has had a good Christmas, his blood readings are still good, so only checks his Bloods twice a week now, he did them on 27th Dec after 3 days of heavy meals and drink, which gave him a reading of 6

Hope you are all ok after the Christmas party food too xx
 

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Thanks for the update, glad to hear he is doing well.
 
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Yes I was diagnosed as a diabetic in December of 1966 where I was hospitalized in a Pediatric Intensive Care Unit because I was kind of late being diagnosed and ended up in a diabetic comma.

After about 2 months I had recovered enough to be released. Fortunately for me I have very few memories of that time.
Hi rsfletcher you had a similar problem with your son, you said you had your son checked for Diabetes....did he have it or was he clear
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Is it possible to control type 1 with diet and excercise only
and not use insulin or meds?

What's your thoughts please???
Interesting question. I think the answer is No, but I would like to talk about this for a bit.

Type 2 diabetes:
- I have type 2 diabetes, I eat a low carb, high fat diet to lower my insulin levels.
- If I overeat on a LCHF diet, ie eat more fat than my body is able to burn, it is still possible to gain weight - because - I still have insulin in my system.
- Why do I still gain weight? I am told that even though my insulin levels are low enough to allow body fat to re-enter the blood stream, there is enough insulin in my blood stream to move excessive fats back into my fat stores.
- It is definitely worth noting that insulin carries nutrients to my muscles and organ, so I would be wrong to think of it as only a fat storage hormone.

Type 1 diabetes:
- there is one thing that I am not sure of: if untreated, is insulin totally non existent? or are there also type 1 diabetes where insulin is present in insufficient amounts? I think if we understood this, it would be easy to make some generalizations on how to treat it.

- if there is insulin but in insufficient amounts, then I think a general strategy of LCHF would work to 1) reduce the need for insulin to regulate blood glucose, and 2) increase your odds of having sufficient insulin to deliver the vitally needed nutrients to your body.
- in essence, you would be partially treating type 1 diabetes without meds, and using meds to meet your full insulin needs.

my opinion:
- unfortunately, without insulin meds, insufficient is insufficient no matter what is eaten, so the above might be a recipe for healthier living but to is not a recipe for treating type 1 diabetes.

if I take a step back, and look at this from a distance, I think a healthy diet and exercise is a good recommendation for everyone. Especially for diabetes - both t1 and t2 - because we are higher risks for heart disease, stroke, kidney disease, etc.

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BTW, my son was born in Calgary, and I grew up south of Banff. Now I live in Nova Scotia about a day drive south of RSFletcher in PEI. Ron, one of these days I would like to buy you a coffee( or maybe just a water - lol) I don't care if our first meeting was two strangers not knowing what to say because I think it will be an honor to meet you.
 

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- Why do I still gain weight? I am told that even though my insulin levels are low enough to allow body fat to re-enter the blood stream, there is enough insulin in my blood stream to move excessive fats back into my fat stores
My understanding that insulin stores glucose as fat into the fat cells. It has no effect on fats in the bloodstream. I have always understood that some of the excess protein one eats can be converted to glycogen and stored in the liver, to be dumped into the bloodstream as glucose - which insulin would then store into the fat cells. Everything I've read about low-carb and keto is that eating too much protein is what causes weight gain.

I have also read that too much insulin can block the movement of fat from fat cells into the bloodstream. Which is why it's so hard to lose weight when eating a carbohydrate-based diet.
 

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Hi NSDAD126, thank you for taking the time to post that very interesting info.

You say we should following a "healthy diet" and excercise
What type of healthy diet? Does that include LCHF?
Thanks

BTW Banff is one of my fav places
 

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Hi rsfletcher you had a similar problem with your son, you said you had your son checked for Diabetes....did he have it or was he clear
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He's doing fine now - actually he just turned 27 a couple of days ago. Hopefully neither of my kids will be cursed with my Type 1 genetic mutation(s). My daughter is in the military and my son is in law enforcement - if they ever get hit with diabetes it would probably end their respective careers.
 
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