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first off thanks for providing a great forum to discuss our common problem and look for and offer suggestions. i plan on spending some time reading here.

I was diagnosed type 1 about 5 years ago (age 33) and have been insulin dependent ever since. i had and still do not have any weight issues at all and there is no trace of diabetes in my family that can be found.

currently prescribed Humalog and Lantus pens.

if i am eating normally for a diabetic (not pizza and ice cream ;) like deli sandwiches with some chips, steak/fish dinner with a potato, your average not garbage meals with an occasional sweet or beer/wine/alcohol then i would take:

24 hour Lantus = 35 units every night before bed
3 hour Humalog = about 10 units with every meal

that is very close to my daily average and i wake up most days between 85 and 150 and run an average 14 days of 110-150 with an occasional 250-450 hopping in there causing my 14 day to be higher than i would like it to be.

i am very cautious of my sugar level and test at least 5 times a day to keep such a good average.

i have done some serious difficult testing over the last few years to try and take as little or no insulin as i could and i wanted to mention what i have done and what it has done for me so that maybe it can help someone else.

You can see my daily normal insulin intake above with a combined total of an average of 65 units a day when i was eating what i call normal for a diabetic. with my current diet i now take:

24 hour Lantus = 0 units
3 hour Humalog = around 6 units total but some days 0

i wake up with no Lantus at night averaging around 125 with what i am doing below and sometimes take 3 units of Humalog with breakfast shake if needed with the diet below and then sometimes need 3 units or so with lunch depending where lunch may take me and what might be available to me.

this is what i am doing now to create such a decrease and sugar levels that stay within the proper range with very little to no insulin.

as a side note and i do not work for them or anything ;) but i do a lot of shakes and i went through a lot of blenders not wanting at the time to buy the commercial $400 blender i bought the Magic Bullet blender which you can see on TV or get at Target etc... and it is going on 3 years now with an incredible amount of use and is just easy and great to use. it also makes a perfect 16oz shake so you do not have to worry about having extra to waste.

Breakfast Shake:

i use the Magic bullet with the following ingredients:

1. bottled water. for the bullet i fill it about 1/3 full or so. you will quickly realize what gives you a very thick or very liquid shake and i sometimes want one or the other.

2. always 1/3 to 1/2 of an organic banana depending on the size. i find it best to get a lot of them when they are ripe or even to the point that they are on sale very cheap cause they are so ripe the store needs them gone. i then cut them into the size portions i want and place them wrapped in wax paper inside a good quality large freezer bag.

fyi - using all frozen things like i mention here prevents having to use ice or anything to get a shake that is ice cold so it taste better.

3. Super Greens powder. 1 serving. this is great for your health as well as your blood sugar levels. i prefer a product called Living Fuel which you can google since i can not post links here yet. there are others and even Whole Foods now carries one. i am not going to tell you what you should and should not buy but be sure to research that it is a trusted whole food product with no fillers or coloring etc... that example cost $75 but will give you 56 shakes which is about $1.34 a shake. the Whole Foods brand which i can not remember the name off hand is $28 and gives you 30 servings for about $0.94 per shake.

4. Protein Powder. 1 serving. as mentioned with the super greens powder be sure what it contains. i have spent a lot of time looking at these and it is my recommendation that you avoid GNC stuff or your local gym etc.. for purchasing these. these are produced to be sold to the body building community etc... as a weigh to put on muscle and be lean and not really about being healthy. some are worse than others with what they put in it but most have things like aspartame, artificial colors and sweeteners, sugar, or gluten etc... and the purpose to me is to be as healthy as possible. the product that i have found to be the best for ingredients are made by Jay Robb which you can google since i can not post links on here yet. they also offer Rice and Egg based and do not contain any of the "bad" things that others might have. i should mention that your GNC chocolate protein powder may taste like a perfect chocolate shake but they obtain that with ingredients that i do not want in my shake. the Jay Robb's still tase good sweetened with Stevia but loose that kick you might be used to if you have used these before. i often see it available at my local owned health food store as well as Kroger in my area.

5. Frozen Fruit. fill the shake container until its full :) i buy and recommend frozen organic fruits but they cost more and so any frozen fruit will work if you need to save money. Sam's even sells a big bag of Dole frozen fruit that has like peaches, pineapples, strawberries, and a few other things. one thing i like to mention is that frozen fruit blended bags often do not contain any or little blueberries so i always buy extra just blueberry bags.

6. blend until it sounds smooth :)


i generally have a shake for breakfast and sometimes change it out with an omelet with veggies and maybe some cheese.

for lunch i usually am going to a restaurant with people from work and just try to eat low carb like salad with some unbreaded poultry or meat, or hamburger (no ketchup no bun) with veggies, i think this is easy to figure out. its sometimes hard to do when your company is having fish and chips with maybe a desert but after awhile you just dont think about it anymore and in my case it just looks like a plate of fat and sugar that i know isn't going to do any good for me even if i wasn't diabetic.

for dinner i will either have a shake or make something on the grill keeping that low carb thought process where i will make fish, chicken, pork, or steak usually from the local butcher where i know it is not full of anti-biotics and all corn fed to get it fat in 8 months since i dont want all that corn.

after dinner i almost always go for a good walk or it the treadmill if i have to due to weather. this will generally burn off any insulin needs i may have had from my low carb dinner and i normally do not have to take any.

as a rule i avoid all soft drinks especially diet or calorie free as there is absolutely nothing good in them and they are full of aspartame. i will have coffe on occasion or sometimes daily for a bit as i go in phases but not Mocha etc.. as that is not coffe but desert. i drink a lot of bottled water and it is actually what i enjoy the most anyway so i am lucky and do not have tea or soft drink desire i know a lot of people do and i never have even when i was not diabetic.

my purpose here was just to put out there what i do and in no way was i trying to preach or put down what anyone that is readin this may do. these types of things are easy for some and very hard for others and i completely understand that.

i hope that just one person may read this, try it, and be able to report back that it works for them or maybe helped them control their sugar.

if i can answer any questions about what i mentioned above that works for me i would be happy to. i am not a doctor or any specialist and make no claims here that i am so please keep that in mind.

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Fletch?...Hmmm...you do look a lot like Chevy Chase, in his younger days. Lol!

I have been type 1 for 64 years and I am very healthy. If I took zero basal and so little bolus my BG would be off the charts and I would be hospitalized with keacidosis. No type 1 could live with that little insulin, unless they were still producing some of their own insulin. This leads me to believe that you are either still experiencing a honeymoon phase and are producing some insulin, or you have been misdiagnosed. There are about 2 million type 2 diabetics in the US who were never overweight.

Your diet seems very good and it is obviously working well for you. Keep it up!! I absolutely have to use 1 unit of Humalog for every 6 carbs I eat, and I must take my basal insulin. I would not live very long without my insulin, even on your diet. This is why I think you are not yet a fully developed type 1, and perhaps you are not type 1 at all. You may even be a type 1.5. Have you researched the categories of type 1.5?

Richard
 

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Richard157,

i knew this wasn't for everyone and if i implied that i am sorry. i know of 1.5 but of course the doctors i have talked to don't really seem to recognize it so i didn't know if it was a proper term.

can you please change the subject to Type 1.5 please?

i have heard the honeymoon phase for 5 years now. is there usually a 5+ year honeymoon phase? could be i never researched it.

i do not normally discuss my diabetes with people or on forums. i mainly just do what i can make sure im healthy and try to keep my sugar in line :)

i have a few friends that are diabetic both full type 1 and 2 and sadly i never discuss it with them because all three of them live as if they dont have it except for taking their insulin or pill and maybe checking their blood sugar every once in awhile. they know this bothers me so we just dont talk about it.

once you change the title to 1.5 then that will maybe help people in my situation if they want to try it.

i wonder why i can use the same amount of insulin as my juvenile friend when i am not on a strict diet and then get such a lower usage when i watch it so closely? you would think that my sugar would either be extremely low using what he uses if i am producing some or extremely high if i lowered it so much? probably how honeymoon is i guess?

i have had such good results that i wanted to share my experience with others.

thanks for the information.
 

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Well "Fletch", you seem to be doing pretty well for yourself, but I have to agree with Richard that your diagnosis is a little fuzzy. If you aren't seeing an endocrinologist, it might be a good idea to search out a good one. Type 1.5 is indeed a diagnosis; my own brother-in-law is type 1.5, and some of our forum members are too.

There are tests which show more distinctly where you are in Diabetesville, and you appear to be somewhat outside the boundaries of type 1. It isn't something that you or we get to decide by changing the title of this thread - it needs to be determined by tests for antibodies, etc. Since you're obviously producing fair amounts of endogenous insulin, I would think it in your best interests to find a doc who will actually cooperate with you on pinpointing your diagnosis.

Meanwhile, take care and visit often! :D
 

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my only reason for changing the title was so others that were also 1.5 might find it and those that are not would know it didn't pertain to them.

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Fletch, we do not know you are type 1.5 so we will not change the title now. If you do get a diagnosis from an endo, and you are then type 1.5, be sure and let us know. You have had a great experience and I appreciate the fact that you want to share it with us so others may follow your example. That routine would probably not work for many diabetics though. I realize you are aware of that.

A honeymoon still going for 5+ years? I doubt it, but I could be wrong. I suppose a honeymoon could be prolonged by the diabetes management program you are following, but for 5 years??? I still think you are not type 1,....I hope you will have an endo diagnose your type soon. That would be to your benefit!
 

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Hello Christim, I hope you find much useful information on this website. Why don't you will start a discussion in the "Introduce Yourself" forum and tell us about yourself. Ask all the questions you want there.

Richard
 
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