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Hope I'm posting in the right part of the forum for this. Please feel free to move this if there's a better place for it.

I'm prediabetic and have been using Victoza (started at 1.2 daily, in the AM) since October. Aside from the first few days of the basic and mild side effects (nausea, headache, feeling of fullness, etc.), I thought Victoza was a miracle. Lost about 20 lbs (combined with exercise) in 2-3 months and no more spikes and crashes during the day. Up until about December, I was feeling great. Then I started to get extremely tired and experiencing brain fog during the late morning, beginning around 11AM and progressively getting worse as the day went on. It was affecting my job performance as well. Thought it was my thyroid but that checked out fine (I'm on thyroid meds). I decided to cut back to .6 the past couple of weeks and my energy level seemed to get better, until just a couple of days ago, then the tiredness & brain fog returned. Today I did .6 plus 5 clicks and as usual, I started feeling so tired around 11:00. Around 1:00 I decided to check my BG at my mother's (I don't monitor. Never been told to.). It was 84, and that was after oatmeal and coffee at 9:30, then a hard boiled egg, an orange, and a small handful of nuts throughout the morning. I'm beginning to wonder if I no longer need the Victoza, or if I need something else? Isn't a BG reading of 84 a bit low, even after eating something for most of the morning? My doc/RNP did tests last month for parathyroid & hypercalcemia (high calcium in the blood) but all returned negative. Any suggestions/comments? I'll be in touch with my doc to follow-up too.
 

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Hope I'm posting in the right part of the forum for this. Please feel free to move this if there's a better place for it.

I'm prediabetic and have been using Victoza (started at 1.2 daily, in the AM) since October. Aside from the first few days of the basic and mild side effects (nausea, headache, feeling of fullness, etc.), I thought Victoza was a miracle. Lost about 20 lbs (combined with exercise) in 2-3 months and no more spikes and crashes during the day. Up until about December, I was feeling great. Then I started to get extremely tired and experiencing brain fog during the late morning, beginning around 11AM and progressively getting worse as the day went on. It was affecting my job performance as well. Thought it was my thyroid but that checked out fine (I'm on thyroid meds). I decided to cut back to .6 the past couple of weeks and my energy level seemed to get better, until just a couple of days ago, then the tiredness & brain fog returned. Today I did .6 plus 5 clicks and as usual, I started feeling so tired around 11:00. Around 1:00 I decided to check my BG at my mother's (I don't monitor. Never been told to.). It was 84, and that was after oatmeal and coffee at 9:30, then a hard boiled egg, an orange, and a small handful of nuts throughout the morning. I'm beginning to wonder if I no longer need the Victoza, or if I need something else? Isn't a BG reading of 84 a bit low, even after eating something for most of the morning? My doc/RNP did tests last month for parathyroid & hypercalcemia (high calcium in the blood) but all returned negative. Any suggestions/comments? I'll be in touch with my doc to follow-up too.
Hi Gailene
I have been on victoza since the start of march of this year
Apart from the normal side effects which are expected being on the drug, I would also label victoza as no less than a miracle, since many years I have shed pounds of my body, feeling was just out of this world, but lately I felt the same symptoms as you have been having, went to the doc, he suggested I discontinue the med for a week and start from 0.6 for 1 week and bring it to 1.2 and keep it their as I don't need 1.8 anymore, from tomm onwards I would be on 1.2 and would keep it their to see if it would help.

Since the time of discontinuing the med I felt better, but this brain fog does not seem to go away, I have very low levels of testosterone and am currently on androgel, thought need more of androgel, doc asked to increase it to 2 sachets of 5mg, but it made things worse and brought it down to 5 again.

Seems my weight is coming back and I am a bit concern.
Hoping things would improve in coming days/ weeks.

Do let us know how you feel and any improvement in your condition
For sure victoza is one drug which has helped me a lot in years and I am ready to stay the course if it would help me control my type 2 diab.

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Nice to hear from someone with similar issues. I eventually went off the Victoza shortly after posting and found, like you, that the weight crept back on. I had a sneaking suspicion that my thyroid was low when I was going through all of these issues, as the brain fog is one of the indicators of low thyroid. I've been hypo for about 10 years so am familiar with these things. After consulting with my doc that I go to for my thyroid, we have that under control again and I restarted Victoza about 4 weeks ago. I still believe it's just an amazing drug but sadly, it may not be for everyone. I just increased to 1.2 last week and still seem to be doing fine. I did not have the drastic initial weight loss (I say drastic--8 lbs in 6 days) as I did when I originally started it but my weight is coming back down. I do notice though that if I forget to take my shot in the morning, that I have a tendency to want to continue "grazing" after a meal which is, afterall, what the Victoza seems to counteract. It supplies the "off switch", as my doc put it. My A1c is 5.5 and I see my doc every 2 weeks right now for consultation and weigh-in. I also use My Fitness Pal to track my calories and exercise. It's a great free tool and there's an app for it too. I'm interested in your low testoserone condition (I'm assuming you're female?). I suggest you have your thyroid checked too (and pray that you have a doc who understands the condition). It can explain the brain fog, as well as the weight gain or difficulty in losing weight, and affect other things like your cholestrol too. Good luck!
 

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Welcome back, Gailene . . . looks like you have things well in hand. Hope you can visit us more often & keep us posted how things are going.

Take care & hurry back! :cool:
 

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Nice to hear from someone with similar issues. I eventually went off the Victoza shortly after posting and found, like you, that the weight crept back on. I had a sneaking suspicion that my thyroid was low when I was going through all of these issues, as the brain fog is one of the indicators of low thyroid. I've been hypo for about 10 years so am familiar with these things. After consulting with my doc that I go to for my thyroid, we have that under control again and I restarted Victoza about 4 weeks ago. I still believe it's just an amazing drug but sadly, it may not be for everyone. I just increased to 1.2 last week and still seem to be doing fine. I did not have the drastic initial weight loss (I say drastic--8 lbs in 6 days) as I did when I originally started it but my weight is coming back down. I do notice though that if I forget to take my shot in the morning, that I have a tendency to want to continue "grazing" after a meal which is, afterall, what the Victoza seems to counteract. It supplies the "off switch", as my doc put it. My A1c is 5.5 and I see my doc every 2 weeks right now for consultation and weigh-in. I also use My Fitness Pal to track my calories and exercise. It's a great free tool and there's an app for it too. I'm interested in your low testoserone condition (I'm assuming you're female?). I suggest you have your thyroid checked too (and pray that you have a doc who understands the condition). It can explain the brain fog, as well as the weight gain or difficulty in losing weight, and affect other things like your cholestrol too. Good luck!
Hi Gailene

This is so very useful and thank you for responding.

I have just moved to 1.2 and feel better, of course no where close to what I felt when I started on victoza, but fear if I stop my condition may worsen.

Brain fog still persists, wonder if it's cause of it or my androgel, I am in constant touch with my doc and he suggests that I stay on the drug and things would take care of themselves, I hope he is right

I am not low on thyroid, but it would not be bad idea to get it tested as the last test done was almost 2 years back, as this medical condition runs in the family, my mother is hypo and is on drugs, what I understand people who have been clubbed as border line thyroid case do well on thyroid drugs but the docs in this part of the world take the lab readings as final, maybe I can ask him to put me on throid mess if the lab results still come out to be border line

I can live with weight gain but I need to find a way to get rid of this brain fog, I just can't concentrate on work, maybe it calls for a change in lifestyle, i live a very sedentary lifestyle with no physical activity

What as per you is the best time to take victoza, I take it after the meal in the evening
I am male

Please keep those responses coming in as they help a lot
Thanks for this forum, this is god gift

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Victoza

Fogginess.
Maybe this will help.

I am also on Victoza with same sysmptoms of fogginess.

Doctor suggested lecithin & B100 both are over the counter.

Works for me , hope it will for you.

God bless

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Fogginess.
Maybe this will help.

I am also on Victoza with same sysmptoms of fogginess.

Doctor suggested lecithin & B100 both are over the counter.

Works for me , hope it will for you.

God bless

Shane
Hi Shane
Plan to see doc who returned after attending a conference.
I am not sure what is causing this, in the past for several years I have been on anti depressants, cipralex was the last one which I discontinued after feeling better with victoza and androgel which was prescribed for my testosterone levels, I understand low testo levels can cause depression likes symptoms.

Don't want to go back on anti deps, just don't help.
I will have these meds suggested by you discussed with the doc, hope he has heard about them.

What as per you is the best time to take victoza, hoe much you are currently on.

I got my hands recently on a book by dr hyman heal your body heal your brain, he has a new approach to look al issues concerning brain, he says broken brains are a result of problems in your body, fix them and the brain would repair itself, did you hear about it
Thanks
Aamir

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Currently on 1.8.
I take 1.2 in the morning and .6 in the evening ,seems to work better this way. Also always keep Victoza refrigerated.

Thanks for the book suggestion , I will look it up.
 

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Currently on 1.8.
I take 1.2 in the morning and .6 in the evening ,seems to work better this way. Also always keep Victoza refrigerated.

Thanks for the book suggestion , I will look it up.
Hi Shane

Just hooked on to the net to read more on lecithin, seems like it has solution for all issues I am currently confronting, about it in a minute

I was on 1.8 and when all these issues came all of a sudden, went to the doc and he said I don't need 1.8, suggested I go off the medication for a week and than start with 0.6 and after a week bring it up to 1.2, wonder if lowering the dose was a good choice, I have lost a good amount of weight, but it seems to be going up again.

What form you take lecithin, dosage and from which manufacturer, how long it took you to see the benefits while on lecithin and how long you have been on it.

I haveent read about b100, would bother you for more on it once have read
Thank again, you have great help

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Currently on 1.8.
I take 1.2 in the morning and .6 in the evening ,seems to work better this way. Also always keep Victoza refrigerated.

Thanks for the book suggestion , I will look it up.
Hi Shane

Forgot to mention, I have severe vitamin d deficiency, could this be the cause of brain fog and depression and anxiety like systems, I never knew vitamin d can cause such havoc, do I need to take supplements for me to get the vitamin d levels back to normal .

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I currently take 1tablet 1200 mg of Lechithin twice a day , I buy it from CVS pharmacy 250 soft gels around $10.00.

Saw results in about a week.

I you have done your research on it you have seen it has a hoist of benefits. The part I like is natural cholesterol lowering.

The brain is surrounds in liquid which is 90% Lechithin and this has been proven beneficial to Alzheimer patients as well.

Here is a good link , this site will not allow me to post url's yet as I am a newbee :)
Add www infront.
anti-aging-articles
 

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Yes ,,, I forgot to mention , before Victoza the doctor put me on prescription vitamin D2 50,000 units twice a week. Before the vit d my BG was always high with insulin after the vit d I started crashing into the 40's --go figure.

Most people will tell you to just go buy Vit d3 over the counter because you body has to convert the Vit 2 to Vit 3 anyway.
But after I did some research it is the conversion process that helps transport insulin.

I think I could wright a book here. LOL :)
 

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I currently take 1tablet 1200 mg of Lechithin twice a day , I buy it from CVS pharmacy 250 soft gels around $10.00.

Saw results in about a week.

I you have done your research on it you have seen it has a hoist of benefits. The part I like is natural cholesterol lowering.

The brain is surrounds in liquid which is 90% Lechithin and this has been proven beneficial to Alzheimer patients as well.

Here is a good link , this site will not allow me to post url's yet as I am a newbee :)
Add www infront.
anti-aging-articles
Hi Shane
Thanks buddy, you have been great help

Is their a blood test which can confirm you have deficiency of lecithin or the docs would not have any qualms in prescribing it, I will anyways ask him to do so.

The only concern I have is if this could take care of my memory issues, I am ready to take it for life
How long you have been on it and does it in the long run have some side effects
Any more info would be helpful

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Yes ,,, I forgot to mention , before Victoza the doctor put me on prescription vitamin D2 50,000 units twice a week. Before the vit d my BG was always high with insulin after the vit d I started crashing into the 40's --go figure.

Most people will tell you to just go buy Vit d3 over the counter because you body has to convert the Vit 2 to Vit 3 anyway.
But after I did some research it is the conversion process that helps transport insulin.

I think I could wright a book here. LOL :)
Hi Shane

Indeed the doc has given me some high potent vit d capsules to be taken once per week, it does not seem to be helping in getting the levels within normal range, he informed me I would need some shots, see if that helps

What as per you is the best form for vit d and what are u taking currently
Thanks

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Vit D2 , I also think is has multitude of benefits that could also be beneficial to you situation also.
Thanks
Yes I have neglected it and would now see that I take care of it to get it within normal ranges, are their any medical conditions which can deplete your vit d levels

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Having difficult time viewing with my blackberry, is there a mobile link for this site ?
Hi Shane
I am using it on my iPhone and iPad for which the forum has excellent app.
Am not sure if you got a similar app for blackberry, would check and advise

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lecithin is over the counter , you can buy it right off the shelf. It is natural so it would not hurt to give it a try.

On the Vitd I take D2 50,000 unit twice a week. D2 has to be converted by the body to D3 . The conversion process helps in the transport of insulin through the body.
 
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