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Hearts Jounrey......Thanks for the information, it clearly shows an strong trend in the diagnosis of diabetes....


The challenge researchers continue to struggle with is what specifically is the cause(s) of these increasing trends? When they figure this out, they will be in much better shape to find a real medical cure/ preventative protocol!
 

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Coming from a retail and food retail background for most of my life, I can safely and accurately tell you that around 75% of diabetics get that way from processed foods.

The mass marketing of processed foods came around in the 1960's with the advent of the "TV Dinner". Premade, precooked, prepackaged food shipped to your grocers freezer, ready for you to stick in the oven for a fast meal. And it just kept getting worse.

The more processed foods caught on with consumers, the more that the food industry had to find ways of preserving foods better, to last longer.....as well as additives and fillers to expand the RAPIDLY expanding and RAVENOUS appetites of "modern society". More single mothers meant more frozen dinners, as mom was too tired to cook after having to work a job, pick up the kids, do laundry, and find time to do other things that needed to be done. So much easier for mom to just go to the store once a week and stock up on premade foods she could stock the freezer with.

Later on, we had "latch key kids". When mom and dad were too busy to even pick the kids up from school, much less cook for them. Easy as pie, to just tell the kids to grab a frozen dinner and stick it in the oven.

Then came the ease of the drive thru. A lot of burger joints had these already, but when other places saw how much more business it brought in, pretty much everybody had to have a drive thru. Whats even EASIER than throwing a frozen dinner in the oven, when you can just run thru the drive thru on the way home from work?

You get the idea.

You've probably seen or heard the horror stories over the years of additives, chemical preservatives, fillers, colorings, flavorings all being bad for you. But for all the whining and complaining, people still gobble this stuff up like theres no tomorrow.

With this information now, I can tell you that coming from a retail food background, there are 4 main ingredients that pretty much come in all premade, prepackaged, and premixed foods........

SALT
SUGAR
STARCH
PRESERVATIVES

These are the bases for ALL manufactured food items. I don't care what the ingredients tell you, these are the basic 4 ingredients all food production companies use. This includes the manufacturing of all ingredients that fast food places use.

Whether these are used for taste, texture, fillers, or as the base product, they are in there.

******The USFDA states that any food production company does NOT have to list an ingredient if the contents hold LESS THAN 5% of that ingredient! That means any company can put in whatever they want, as long as it's less than 5%!!! This includes salt, sugar, and artificial chemicals!

Just because it says "sugar free" does not mean there isn't any sugar in it. The same goes for any other ingredient as well.

Imagine an entire country eating nothing but foods that have these base ingredients. Over the course of a lifetime, these people will develop conditions, ailments, and diseases. And those conditions, ailments, and diseases not only can be passed down through heredity, but can also be the catalyst for OTHER conditions, ailments, and diseases.

From the 1960's to the early 1990's, most manufactured and premade foods had high concentrations of not only the 4 base ingredients, but harmful preservatives, chemical colorings and flavorings, and fillers made from mostly salt, bone, and sawdust. Yes, sawdust!

The 1990's saw most of these ingredients change for more "soluble" ingredients, as most of the previous ones were never really digestible, relating into the ailments, problems, and diseases we see so much of today, that have been passed on through parents.

Even though a lot has changed in the way of food production over the past 25 years, the damage has been done. All those chemicals, byproducts, preservatives, artificial this and that, fillers, etc..... have been set into our DNA.

Nowadays we have the problems of hormones, drugs, stimulants, and anti-biotics injected, sprayed, or put into the food source of food animals, vegetable crops, and even put into the water supply used to feed these animals and crops.

One horrific set of problems switched out for another.

We have no immunity to artificial and chemical ingredients placed in our food supplies. We have no control over what we get, as the whole planet is polluted now. The terms "organic" and "whole food" are nothing more than lies and gimmicks made to sell the same foods as in regular stores, but with a higher marked up price.

Sure, there are SOME cleaner food sources out there, but they aren't any more safe than what you get at a normal grocery store.

Polluted soil, polluted rain, air pollution, polluted water supplies, killer bacteria in plants...........it just never stops. Even if you grow your own foods and raise your own food source animals.......there are still problems.

The human body was not made to subscribe to this kind of food source. Is it a wonder we even live as long as we do? It shouldn't be any shock that the entire world is going diabetic. It's the new version of humans........diabetes, cancer, and all forms of A.D.D. This is what we've become, this is what DNA legacy we have to give.

And to add more injury to deadly injury.........most people have sedentary jobs which results in a sedentary life-style. Our way of life has changed drastically over the years. The way we eat, has not.


And on top of this, we are over medicated, over drugged, and force fed a load of B.S. from our medical "professionals" most of the time, because they get more money for prescribing more pills, more medical devices, more everything.

I'm 55 years old, and I've only met ONE Dr. in my life so far, who adhered to the theory of "lets see what natural remedies work first and go from there". He saw that over prescribing medications was making him money, but it was making his patients even sicker. He said the extra money wasn't worth his sanity or his mental well being. He learned all he could about self healing, old fashioned remedies, and natural herbs to help out when they could. He left the "hard drugs" as a last resort.

Too bad the rest of "modern" man can't do the same. Even if we did, it would take around 100 years to undo the inherent DNA damage we've accomplished over the past 50-60 years.
 

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Nice work Chaidragonfire
 
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hy Do YOU Feel So Many More People Are Being Diagnosed With Diabetes?

It the food we eat ever since the factories have taken over putting their finish foodstuff on our tables.
 

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Coming from a retail and food retail background for most of my life, I can safely and accurately tell you that around 75% of diabetics get that way from processed foods.

The mass marketing of processed foods came around in the 1960's with the advent of the "TV Dinner". Premade, precooked, prepackaged food shipped to your grocers freezer, ready for you to stick in the oven for a fast meal. And it just kept getting worse.

The more processed foods caught on with consumers, the more that the food industry had to find ways of preserving foods better, to last longer.....as well as additives and fillers to expand the RAPIDLY expanding and RAVENOUS appetites of "modern society". More single mothers meant more frozen dinners, as mom was too tired to cook after having to work a job, pick up the kids, do laundry, and find time to do other things that needed to be done. So much easier for mom to just go to the store once a week and stock up on premade foods she could stock the freezer with.

Later on, we had "latch key kids". When mom and dad were too busy to even pick the kids up from school, much less cook for them. Easy as pie, to just tell the kids to grab a frozen dinner and stick it in the oven.

Then came the ease of the drive thru. A lot of burger joints had these already, but when other places saw how much more business it brought in, pretty much everybody had to have a drive thru. Whats even EASIER than throwing a frozen dinner in the oven, when you can just run thru the drive thru on the way home from work?

You get the idea.

You've probably seen or heard the horror stories over the years of additives, chemical preservatives, fillers, colorings, flavorings all being bad for you. But for all the whining and complaining, people still gobble this stuff up like theres no tomorrow.

With this information now, I can tell you that coming from a retail food background, there are 4 main ingredients that pretty much come in all premade, prepackaged, and premixed foods........

SALT
SUGAR
STARCH
PRESERVATIVES

These are the bases for ALL manufactured food items. I don't care what the ingredients tell you, these are the basic 4 ingredients all food production companies use. This includes the manufacturing of all ingredients that fast food places use.

Whether these are used for taste, texture, fillers, or as the base product, they are in there.

******The USFDA states that any food production company does NOT have to list an ingredient if the contents hold LESS THAN 5% of that ingredient! That means any company can put in whatever they want, as long as it's less than 5%!!! This includes salt, sugar, and artificial chemicals!

Just because it says "sugar free" does not mean there isn't any sugar in it. The same goes for any other ingredient as well.

Imagine an entire country eating nothing but foods that have these base ingredients. Over the course of a lifetime, these people will develop conditions, ailments, and diseases. And those conditions, ailments, and diseases not only can be passed down through heredity, but can also be the catalyst for OTHER conditions, ailments, and diseases.

From the 1960's to the early 1990's, most manufactured and premade foods had high concentrations of not only the 4 base ingredients, but harmful preservatives, chemical colorings and flavorings, and fillers made from mostly salt, bone, and sawdust. Yes, sawdust!

The 1990's saw most of these ingredients change for more "soluble" ingredients, as most of the previous ones were never really digestible, relating into the ailments, problems, and diseases we see so much of today, that have been passed on through parents.

Even though a lot has changed in the way of food production over the past 25 years, the damage has been done. All those chemicals, byproducts, preservatives, artificial this and that, fillers, etc..... have been set into our DNA.

Nowadays we have the problems of hormones, drugs, stimulants, and anti-biotics injected, sprayed, or put into the food source of food animals, vegetable crops, and even put into the water supply used to feed these animals and crops.

One horrific set of problems switched out for another.

We have no immunity to artificial and chemical ingredients placed in our food supplies. We have no control over what we get, as the whole planet is polluted now. The terms "organic" and "whole food" are nothing more than lies and gimmicks made to sell the same foods as in regular stores, but with a higher marked up price.

Sure, there are SOME cleaner food sources out there, but they aren't any more safe than what you get at a normal grocery store.

Polluted soil, polluted rain, air pollution, polluted water supplies, killer bacteria in plants...........it just never stops. Even if you grow your own foods and raise your own food source animals.......there are still problems.

The human body was not made to subscribe to this kind of food source. Is it a wonder we even live as long as we do? It shouldn't be any shock that the entire world is going diabetic. It's the new version of humans........diabetes, cancer, and all forms of A.D.D. This is what we've become, this is what DNA legacy we have to give.

And to add more injury to deadly injury.........most people have sedentary jobs which results in a sedentary life-style. Our way of life has changed drastically over the years. The way we eat, has not.


And on top of this, we are over medicated, over drugged, and force fed a load of B.S. from our medical "professionals" most of the time, because they get more money for prescribing more pills, more medical devices, more everything.

I'm 55 years old, and I've only met ONE Dr. in my life so far, who adhered to the theory of "lets see what natural remedies work first and go from there". He saw that over prescribing medications was making him money, but it was making his patients even sicker. He said the extra money wasn't worth his sanity or his mental well being. He learned all he could about self healing, old fashioned remedies, and natural herbs to help out when they could. He left the "hard drugs" as a last resort.

Too bad the rest of "modern" man can't do the same. Even if we did, it would take around 100 years to undo the inherent DNA damage we've accomplished over the past 50-60 years.
You forgot polyunsaturated fatty acids, hydrogenated PUFA and the resulting trans-fats. Those, along with huge increases in sugar and starch which you did mention are the big changes and the most likely suspects. "Processing", preservatives and salt are like mostly irrelevant. The changes in the aforementioned actual nutrients were far greater in magnitude and quite plausibly explanatory.

PUFA alone increased EIGHT-FOLD during the 20th century.
 
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You forgot polyunsaturated fatty acids, hydrogenated PUFA and the resulting trans-fats. Those, along with huge increases in sugar and starch which you did mention are the big changes and the most likely suspects. "Processing", preservatives and salt are like mostly irrelevant. The changes in the aforementioned actual nutrients were far greater in magnitude and quite plausibly explanatory.

PUFA alone increased EIGHT-FOLD during the 20th century.

Yes. I was trying to "lump it all together" under the term of preservatives, so my reply wasn't any longer than it was. LOL
But absolutely correct.

There are more viable ways of food production that does not cause harm to humans, but food production companies refuse to use them as they claim "they are too expensive".

Well, instead of cultivating the ARTIFICIAL and CHEMICAL ways, they could cultivate the NATURAL ways instead, and it wouldn't be as costly as they claim it is.

America has become "cheap and easy". We've done this to ourselves, and we've allowed companies providing products for us to continue to do as they please, as consumers still buy their products, keeping them in business.
 

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Ok, ok....I give up, this will be my last post on this tread. But...

I absolutely agree that many more people today are being diagnosed with diabetes, the trend is obvious.


I also agree that what we eat, as a society has radically changed, as noted above and that this could be a cause for the trend in increased diagnosis of diabetes.

Yet I have read nothing that indicates that this has been verified, by a scientific study that it is a cause or the cause. See 'Correlation does not imply Causation' for further clarity...


Good thread, thanks for the information...
 

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genetics plays a role as well

Genes

• TCF7L2, which affects insulin secretion and glucose production
• ABCC8, which helps regulate insulin
• CAPN10, is associated with type 2 diabetes risk in Mexican-Americans
• GLUT2, which helps move glucose into the pancreas
• GCGR, a glucagon hormone involved in glucose regulation

https://www.healthline.com/health/type-2-diabetes/genetics#genes
 

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Ok, ok....I give up, this will be my last post on this tread. But...

I absolutely agree that many more people today are being diagnosed with diabetes, the trend is obvious.


I also agree that what we eat, as a society has radically changed, as noted above and that this could be a cause for the trend in increased diagnosis of diabetes.

Yet I have read nothing that indicates that this has been verified, by a scientific study that it is a cause or the cause. See 'Correlation does not imply Causation' for further clarity...


Good thread, thanks for the information...

There will never be ONE BIG story about this, unless some Dr. somewhere decides to write a "tell all" book, but I doubt that will ever happen.

I've been an observer, watcher, and scrutinizer of everything I have seen and heard in my life since I was a little kid. I pay attention to the details, the small stories, the non-commercialized documentaries, what doctors say and "dont say", what whistle blowers tell, etc....

I sift out the personal opinions, the media BS, and whats left I piece together with everything else I've gotten over the years.

It's like a jigsaw puzzle. You won't have a complete picture unless you put all the pieces together. Nobody is going to do it for you.....give you the complete truth, the complete picture....you have to do it for yourself. And thats how my brain works, logic and reason.

So, when I put all the pieces of this particular puzzle together, this is what I get.

Yes, there are other causes of diabetes, but the flagrant abuse of "human-unfriendly" ingredients in our food sources for all these years is the biggest cause. If not the sole cause, it is definitely the catalyst.
 

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i admire your life long qualities like being an observer, watcher, and scrutinizer of everything you have seen and heard in your life since you were a little kid. Its certainly a lost art in today's world where the IPhone is the center of the universe and people revolve around it to the exclusion of others that may be present as well as the little things in life surrounding them.
 

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This could be 100% correct, but why does the little conspiracy theorist in me whisper this is a rouge to promote global warming and shift attention away from nutritional deficiencies. I've always lived in small places. Big city had a population of 5,280 in it's prime.

However, I must admit that I have worked in a paper mill for the last 41 years, all kinds of fume exposure.
 

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Part of the reason for the increased numbers is the lowering of standards for being diagnosed. This occurred in 1997. it explains the sudden increase on Hearts Journey's post. They instantly increased the numbers by millions.

There is no single cause of the increase. Lowered standards, increased carbs intake as per diet recommendations, lower amounts of exercise, higher amounts of sedentary activites. They all add to the numbers.
 

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I think more people are being diagnosed with diabetes because more people live sedentary lifestyles and also overeat. Many sit at a computer all day and then come home, eat pizza, and then sit in front of their home computer to surf the internet, or they watch TV, or they play video games for hours. Food is over-processed and food companies deliberately make things more salty and sweet than they need to be. Take pizza for example. People adore it. I worship it. And I hope I can still have 1 slice on special occasions.
 

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I think more people are being diagnosed with diabetes because more people live sedentary lifestyles and also overeat. Many sit at a computer all day and then come home, eat pizza, and then sit in front of their home computer to surf the internet, or they watch TV, or they play video games for hours. Food is over-processed and food companies deliberately make things more salty and sweet than they need to be. Take pizza for example. People adore it. I worship it. And I hope I can still have 1 slice on special occasions.
I occasionally eat pizza - thin crust is the route to go - some people on these forums have made pizza crust using cauliflower which is supposed to significantly cut down on the carbs

With thin crust pizza - I'll have a slice with the crust but the second piece I'll just eat the toppings - drives my wife crazy Lol
 

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Take pizza for example. People adore it. I worship it. And I hope I can still have 1 slice on special occasions.
Certainly, you can have it occasionally and, if you're willing to eat only the topping, you could have it more often. I like rfletcher's method of having only one slice with crust.
 

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i admire your life long qualities like being an observer, watcher, and scrutinizer of everything you have seen and heard in your life since you were a little kid. Its certainly a lost art in today's world where the IPhone is the center of the universe and people revolve around it to the exclusion of others that may be present as well as the little things in life surrounding them.
I never owned an IPhone. :glasses:
 
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